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Gloucestershire / Re: STURGE/ENGLAND marriage 1700-1725
« on: Thursday 25 July 19 21:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Capetown

Yes, thank you. I have the inventory of Christopher's household goods etc. Years ago I visited most relevant Record Offices [pre-computers]. I also was in touch with someone who was descended from the Bristol Musical branch. She gave me copies of the many interesting trees and documents regarding the Sturge branches, including the Quakers of Gaunts Earthcott. Tanners were part of that branch. There are lots of Sturges in that area.

Regards Wendy47


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Gloucestershire / Re: STURGE/ENGLAND marriage 1700-1725
« on: Monday 22 July 19 19:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Capetown

Thank you got your information. I will add it to my notes for Sturge in my tree. Pity she is called Sarah but I suppose she could have been Mary.

Regards Wendy47

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Gloucestershire / Re: STURGE/ENGLAND marriage 1700-1725
« on: Sunday 21 July 19 13:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Capetown

 I also found earlier Christophers. The trouble with my Sarah Sturge is proving she is the same person as the one mentioned in all the records.

My Christopher
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Residence: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
Parents: Sam. Holden [Holder?], Sarah Sturge
Name: CHRISTOPHER CASLORD HOLDEN [HOLDER?]
Gender: Male
Baptism/christening date: 25 Jun 1699
Baptism/christening place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
Father's name: Sam. Holden [Holder]
Mother's name: Sarah Sturge
Indexing project (batch) number: I04495-7
System origin: England-EASy
Source film number: 1596036

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Christopher Holder
Gender: Male
Baptism/christening date: 25 Jun 1699
Baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England
Father's name: Saml Holder
Mother's name: Sarah Sturge
Indexing project (batch) number: I05372-4
System origin: England-EASy
Source film number: 1597078

??
Wiltshire burials index 1538-1991
First name(s)   Christopher
Last name   Sturge
Birth year   -
Burial year   1754
Burial date   13 Aug 1754
Place   Grey Easton
County   Wiltshire
Country   England
Record type   Bishop's Transcripts
Record set   Wiltshire Burials Index 1538-1990
Category   Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory   Deaths & burials
Collections from   England, Great Britain

Walter Sturge Birth abt 1600 in Wiltshire ENGLAND - Death abt 1660 in Wiltshire ENGLAND

Christopher Sturge Birth abt 1620 in Fyfield Wiltshire  -  Death abt 1660 in Frampton Cotterell Gloucestershire ENGLAND married Sarah Sturge nee Birth abt 1600 in Gloucestershire ENGLAND - Death 10/1634 in Winterbourne Gloucestershire
Burial 11 Oct 1634  St Michaels C of E Winterbourne Gloucestershire England

The following notes are speculation. I have yet to prove the theories. There is more Sturge information also.
Winterborne Burialls 1631- 1631 Feb 17 bur John Sturge of Harry Stoke
Christenings 1633 - 1633 Aprill 21 bap Anthony ye son of Christopher Sturge.
Burialls 1634. 1634 Oct 11 bur Sarah the wife of Christopher Sturge.
FamilySearch™
XPAER STURGE & CHRISTIA. PARKER  Marriage:  08 OCT 1637  Iron Acton, Gloucester
Sarah Sturge

The following Sarah has the same date as the will left by Sarah England. Could this be Sarah? Is she too old to be having children in 1703? A re-check of the PR is needed to see if it is mar or bur.
John Sturge bur? 8 Aug 1684 Husbandman  F/C Reg 2 p51
   m Sarah bur 4 Sept  1725   F/C Reg 3 p77

 ??? ???
Wendy47

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Gloucestershire / Re: STURGE/ENGLAND MARRIAGE 1700-1725
« on: Thursday 18 July 19 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi squishmich

What a surprise as I posted this 10 years ago.  :o

Sarah Sturge has been a brick wall for 35 years as I discovered most of the information in the 1980s. Here is just a little of the information I have collected over the years. Some pre-computers!

My ancestor Christopher Sturge b 1699 in Frampton Cotterell was the only one named [as her son] in Sarah England's will of 1725.

Sarah is an enigma.

I have found a daughter Sarah Sturge in the Quaker records but there are numerous Sarahs and my grandfather stated that there were reputed to be Quakers in the family. Lots in and around Birmingham linked to the Cadbury & Fry families also the Player tobacco family. Not my branch though I think. They all start in Frampton Cottrell in the 1400s with John Sturge Lord of the Manor.] 

As a Sturge, Sarah only appears in Parish Records for Frampton Cotterell in her relationship with Samuel Holder, Christopher's father. This may well mean that she may have been a young widow. Apart from Christopher, it seems her 3 other children died young.
Did she work for Samuel Holder as a servant and bear him four children? In the household were both Samuel senior and junior. Not sure which one, if any, fathered her children.

As Sarah England, she left a will leaving all her goods and chattels to "my son Christopher Sturge" in 1725.

Last Will and Testament of Sarah England 1725
""God having been pleased to afflict me with bodily sickness and I being apprehensive that I shall soon quit this life and fearful that contests may arise after my decease I do order this my last will and testament to be put down in writing as a witness of what is now my will and desire whilst I am yet living and in my sound senses.
Imprimis:  I bequeath my soul to the infinite mercy of God who gave it to me.
   Item:  I give and bequeath to my dear son born of my body and known by the name of Christopher Sturge now living at his dwelling house upon Frampton Common in the parish of  Frampton Cotterell in the county of Gloucester his heirs, executors, administrators and assigns all my estate real or personal and all my worldly goods whatsoever whether now in my possession or due to me from other persons.
   Item:  I likewise appoint, my said son Christopher Sturge  my whole and sole executor of this my last will and testament revoking all other wills by me heretofore made.
In witness whereof I hereunto set my mark this first day of September in the twelfth year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King George in the year of our Lord God 1725.

Witness
   WaIter Clements      (s)      The mark of S - Sarah England
   William Sainsbury   (s)
Bridget Bloodworth (s)
         28: Oct 1725
Jurat Exectr coram me
John Shellard Sur. ""
Gl. Wills 1725/266

??
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Abraham Sturge
christening: 21 Mar 1702, Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
residence: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
parents: Sarah Sturge

A daughter of Sarah?
name: Sarah England
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Jan 1705
baptism/christening place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
father's name: William England
indexing project (batch) number: I04495-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596036

This is around the date given for my Sarah's death too is this a daughter?
name: Sarah England
gender: Female burial date: 04 Apr 1725
burial place: Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
father's name: William England
indexing project (batch) number: B03506-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Over the years I have checked the records hoping to find something added to the records but I have no firm info regarding her marriage to ? England or any children she may have had. Maybe her husband and daughter pre-deceased her.

Regards Wendy47

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Lanarkshire / Re: Sarah Griffiths born 1811
« on: Tuesday 09 April 19 15:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi ciderdrinker

Fantastic, that is her, my friend will be pleased as she has been looking for ages.

Thank you so much
Wendy47

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Lanarkshire / Sarah Griffiths born 1811 COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 09 April 19 13:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone
I am researching for a friend in Australia and trying to discover the death of Sarah Griffiths nee Jordan b in 1811 in Penscombe, Herefordshire.  In the 1901 Scotland census aged 89 she is staying with her son Peter William Griffiths in Govan, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

Is there anyone who can assist in finding her death please?

Thank you
Wendy47

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Nash
« on: Thursday 13 December 18 13:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Alan

That does seem more likely as both my uncle and mother said he was a PTI and only just made it as he was on the limit of height. The RAPTI has a crown over the sabres but the photo isn't clear enough to tell the difference between the badges. I am now even more confused but tend to lean towards the PTI.

Thankyou
Wendy47

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Nash
« on: Wednesday 12 December 18 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Alan

Thank you.  It seems the more I find out the muddier the the problems appear. The joy of FH!
Wendy47

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Nash
« on: Tuesday 11 December 18 13:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone. I have more questions to answer now.   :-\

I suppose he was attached to the Scottish Regiment to make up for the numbers killed or injured as men were sent were they were needed I presume.

Merry Christmas to all those that spent time replying to my post

Wendy47  :)

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