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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Shipton Draper born c 1810
« on: Saturday 01 May 10 18:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ebch

I believe there were 2 Zachariah Lee's and both similar ages.  The Zachariah Lee you have mentioned is not my Zachariah...they sound like a naughty bunch!  My Zachariah Lee lived in and around Hayes and Berkshire and died in 1875.  I believe he is the step father to Britannia Draper born about 1840.  I wonder who this Walter Draper is that you mention?

Regards

Karen

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Shipton Draper born c 1810
« on: Saturday 01 May 10 14:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Daisy

I have eventually received the death certificate for Shipton Smith...and it is very interesting.  It says he died in 1843 at the age of 35, which means he was born about 1808.  He died in the presence of Fanny DRAPER which is a big coincidence which makes me believe this could be my man I was looking for!?

Born about 1808
Died in 1843
Thameside New Windsor
Occupation Tramp
Cause of death Consumption
Present at the death was Fanny Draper

Regards

Karen

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Shipton Draper born c 1810
« on: Tuesday 13 April 10 18:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Daisy

This is very interesting information, thank you.  I haven't come across this before myself.  I do really feel this is a very strong connection. 

There was a Susan Smith living with Robert Solomon Lee as aunt, in the 1891 census.  She was the widow of Robert Smith born 1819 who was a Tinman and I found him living with his parents in 1841 living with Robert and Martha Smith, father also a Tinman.

Could Robert be a brother to Shipton Smith?  Britannia Draper was born about 1840 and her mother was Charlotte...maybe she is the one with the surname Draper, before she married Zachariah Lee.  I always thought it would be the other way round...Charlotte's surname being Smith.  Charlotte had a son born 1853 with Zachariah Lee called Robert Solomon Lee and I have always wondered who he was named after.

The death reg for Shipton Smith is also interesting.  In fact I might just have to order the certificate!  Windsor is an area my family of Lee's and Draper's travelled to or through.

Many thanks

Karen

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Shipton Draper born c 1810
« on: Friday 02 April 10 09:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone and thank you for your replies.  Yes, I do have alot of information from the census's and I do have Britannia Draper's marriage certificate to Thomas Gregory (father John Gregory, Basket Maker) and Shipton Draper (Basket Maker) is difinitely written on there as her father.   Britannia's first child was Walter William Draper (named Walter Gregory in 1861 census and living with Zacharia and Charlotte Lee, Tinker and Brazier), 10 years later he was then living with Ambrose Lee, Britannia's brother, and Celia and William Clark, Aunt and Uncle.  After ordering their marriage certificate I found out that Celia was also a Draper, though father is called John Draper.

My great grandfather Walter Draper (son of Britannia) went on to have a son who died at birth it seems, called Shipton Draper and I have also found that Britannia's son Alfred John Gregory who married Olive Smith also named one of their son's Shipton in 1917. 

The christian name Shipton for a male does make me believe that Britannia's father Shipton Draper was a real being, though very elusive it seems!

The Criminal record for Shipton Draper (Smith) is interesting as the surname Smith is within the family...there could be a connection to the family. If he did die of his crime it is unlikely he is Britannia's father as she was born in 1840.

Karen :) 

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Family History Beginners Board / Shipton Draper born c 1810
« on: Thursday 01 April 10 22:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I'm new to this site.  I have been tracing my family tree for some time now and to my surprise I found out I was a descendant of Romany Gypsies.  My great great grandmother was Britannia Draper b.1840, she was married to Thomas Gregory.  Her father on her marriage certificate was called Shipton Draper, a basket maker.  I have not been able to find any information on  Shipton Draper and hoped that someone could enlighten me :)

Karen

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