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Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census - Rachel Emanuel (Manuel) Amended
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 20:01 BST (UK) »
Just noticed the other info - many thanks for that - some definite avenues to look at! FYI the 1851 census names Rachel's mother as Katherine Jenkins & her 2nd (?) marriage certificate states?
"Catherine Manuel (sic) - Rachel's mother (Full age, Widow, Servant - father Evan Thomas, Farmer) married William Jenkins (Full age, Widower, Labourer - father Robert Jenkins, Farmer) - 3rd June 1839 at Merthyr Tydfil Reg Office. Witnesses Daniel Quinlin (the mark of) & Jane Coles (signed)."
The "tinker" mention could tie in with the fact that Rachel & her mother were listed as "Sand Sellers" & the fact that they were living in a desperately poor location in 1851. I just wish I could find Rachel on the 1841 census but they may have fallen through the gaps as they were possibly on the road travelling??
Something else that needs to be noted is the fact that on several occasions there are reports in the Cambrian newspaper index [of the right time frame] of a couple [Daniel, a weaver & wife Rachel Williams]being fined for drunk & disorderly, domestic disturbances, as well as a stint in Swansea Union Workhouse. I visited Swansea Archives but there is no further details of the offences other than the small entries in the actual newspaper .
The Emanuels of Wernddu farm need more investigation but they seem too "posh" to be related to my Rachel!!
FYI Daniel died of dropsy & Rachel died of "Cirrhosis of Liver & general dropsy" at her son Joseph's pub [another son Thomas also ran a pub around the corner from Joseph's] They certainly seem to be an interesting couple - quite proud of them
"Catherine Manuel (sic) - Rachel's mother (Full age, Widow, Servant - father Evan Thomas, Farmer) married William Jenkins (Full age, Widower, Labourer - father Robert Jenkins, Farmer) - 3rd June 1839 at Merthyr Tydfil Reg Office. Witnesses Daniel Quinlin (the mark of) & Jane Coles (signed)."
The "tinker" mention could tie in with the fact that Rachel & her mother were listed as "Sand Sellers" & the fact that they were living in a desperately poor location in 1851. I just wish I could find Rachel on the 1841 census but they may have fallen through the gaps as they were possibly on the road travelling??
Something else that needs to be noted is the fact that on several occasions there are reports in the Cambrian newspaper index [of the right time frame] of a couple [Daniel, a weaver & wife Rachel Williams]being fined for drunk & disorderly, domestic disturbances, as well as a stint in Swansea Union Workhouse. I visited Swansea Archives but there is no further details of the offences other than the small entries in the actual newspaper .
The Emanuels of Wernddu farm need more investigation but they seem too "posh" to be related to my Rachel!!
FYI Daniel died of dropsy & Rachel died of "Cirrhosis of Liver & general dropsy" at her son Joseph's pub [another son Thomas also ran a pub around the corner from Joseph's] They certainly seem to be an interesting couple - quite proud of them