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Thank you everybody

I would assure you that it is not deliberate that I haven't acknowledged any messages despite being able to log in since the thread started as I have had multiple other things taking up my time until I can have a proper read through what you have all kindly found.

Nevertheless thank you for finding Lily up in Scotland Jennifer.  I hadn't thought of looking there as passenger lists were on my mind too as she had cousins out in Australia.

Gadget - no don't worry about 1921.  I have some spare credits on SP that have been sitting there doing nothing for a while so I can use them up.

 

Couldn't resist one more -
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4099711/4099719/154/%22town%20crier%22%20AND%20tenby

 
He sounds like a right character!

Thomas John was the Town Crier of Tenby in 1911 and 1921. Was John John a relative?

Thank you - John did have an older younger brother called Thomas

I am trying to find anything about this ladies' death.

I have her d/c which says she died on 30 November 1969 and was DOA at St Margaret's Hospital, Epping.   Cause of death was given as 1(a) Haemorrhage from Multiple Injuries Accidental.

An inquest took place on 20 January 1970.

Unless I have missed something there are no newspaper articles (unless someone else could find them) if it was a car accident or something or where I might find a record of the inquest?

Thank you

There's a Fred Lieder b c1866 Gateshead/Jarrow on a couple of Liverpool crew lists of 1888/89. I wonder if he headed off to sea again?

That chap appears to have been registered as Frederick Joseph (ie Guiseppe) with father Frederick William/Wilhelm from Prussia

Wonder if this is him and new family living in East Ham in 1901?

Frederick Leader    32    b Gateshead. Stevedore
Lilian Leader      26  b Middlesboro
Frederick Leader  5 months b North Woolwich
Charles Smith    22   Boarder

Death
Frederick Joseph Leader
Age    68
Burial    15 Jul 1935  St Mary Magdalene, East Ham

Just revisiting this and I've found the baptism for his son with Jessie Ada and it gives his occupation as warehouseman but that doesn't necessarily mean he was not at sea from time to time; just not when his son was born.

Appreciating that this is Liverpool but Jessie had a number of uncles and cousins that were at sea - all either as Stevedores or Stewards.  I think I will have to find Jessie's first marriage certificate and see what information is contained in it about Friedrich's father to see if he matches the one in Gateshead who seems to be a florist.

There is a marriage in Southampton to Lilly in 1899 so if it his him Jessie and Friedrich are both bigamists....Just actualy noticed that his son from his marriage to Jessie is using Leader in 1911 as is Jessie when she marries the second Crawshaw. Too many coincidences...

Thank you