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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Burial - Pembury/Tunbridge Wells
« on: Monday 14 November 11 11:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Casalguidi,

Thanks for your message - who doesn't charge a great deal for a records search these days?!!  ::)

Sorry, the 'Son in' should have included the 'law' part too!  Just put it in quotation as it is directly transcribed from the certificate.  I have come across situations where son-in-law is also taken to mean step son (always very confusing!) but have to admit that this is usually in earlier census records.

The address given is Forge Farm Crossing, Groombridge, Sussex for both men although he died at Pembury hospital.

As I mentioned previously, the last trace we can find is of him being an absent (military) voter in Lowestoft, Suffolk in 1926 then he disappears.  We can find no other records for him, other than this death certificate (and we are not entirely sure it IS him but can find no other deaths for his name with the correct age and occupation etc.)  I cannot find out who Robert Grant was either.

I wanted to find out if there was a burial for him in Tonbridge (according to the Suffolk records office he is not buried with his wife or other family in Kirkley cemetery, Suffolk or anywhere around this area - about to tackle Sussex records office) so we can at least locate him and work backwards from there - other than this, we have no idea what else we could try to find his burial/cremation place.  I have posted a general Barker family query on the relevant county board.

Any suggestions gratefully received!
Thanks again for your time


Have you considered contacting the Toronto archives and asking if they can help with providing the details relating to this address? - if their surname was indeed White then this will make things a little easier.

I did have a quick look on the Canadian 1911 census but I was unable to search by address alone and even with the surname 'White' it retuned many thousands of options  :o  Dufferin Street appears to be found in Ward 6 however, if this helps.

If you can trace your Grandfathers cousins (ie their exact names - I am assuming that they were born in the UK and that your Grandfather was UK born??) you may be able to find them on passenger lists and this will help to confirm if they were indeed named White.  That will also give you a date of birth to search more specifically on.  The lists may also give an onwards address, which may well match the one on the back of your postcard.  There appears to be quite a mix of origins living in the area (e.g. Irish, English and Scottish, or 'Scotch' , as they put it) so worth doing a little more investigative work here if you can.  The Scottish friends could well be neighbours but until you identify the cousins it could be an even trickier business identifying them!!

The dress certainly leans towards an Edwardian-ish time frame.  Looking at the chap on the left, he almost looks as though he is wearing a'20's style cardigan and I think I can see the moustached chap on the right with some spats on his shoes, which were certainly in vogue between 1910-1930's.  Overall, I sense late 1910's, but could be wrong as I am not an expert on this!!

PM me if you need any help with this and I will try to help where I can.
Best wishes

Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Burial - Pembury/Tunbridge Wells
« on: Sunday 13 November 11 18:18 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks for your reply - I had a quick search on here but sadly, he does not appear.

He seems to be very elusive in the latter part of his life!


Kent Lookup Requests / Burial - Pembury/Tunbridge Wells
« on: Sunday 13 November 11 17:28 GMT (UK)  »

Can anyone help - I am looking for a burial for a George Robert Barker who died at Pembury Hospital on 27th May 1954 aged 82 years (born 1872, Burton on Trent, lived in Lowestoft for much of his life). 
I think we have the right chap/death certificate but can find no other details to verify with and no trace of a burial so far.

His death is registered by a Robert Grant ('son-in' law) but we can find no link for this person hence the slight doubt that it may be him.  Our thinking is that if we can find George R Barkers final resting place we may be able to identify him for certain by seeing where and with whom he is buried.

Any help with pointing us in the right direction will be much appreciated as we have hit a brick wall.

Thanks in advance for your time

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: WWII Army Photo?
« on: Sunday 13 November 11 17:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Adam,

Thanks for taking the time to look for this - it could well be the same cup that they are talking about, although I agree that describing it as 'ornate' is a little generous!  I'd like to know what all the badges represent..

If you manage to find any information on him at all, I would be most grateful. We have sent for his records but are still waiting for their return so not exactly which regiment he served with within the Ox and Bucks Light Infantry.  Apparently he went on to serve with the Greenjackets as well.

Thanks again - fingers crossed it is in fact the same event!

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: WWII Army Photo?
« on: Saturday 12 November 11 15:12 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks for the responses.

My Grandfather was born in 1906. 

I am not sure if there was meant to be any comedy element, although they all look in good spirits, - but I agree the trophy looks home made..I expect they just assembled it from whatever they had spare at the time.  I am intrigued by the letters Y on their jumpers and the large red cross type badge on the third chap from the left.

Arthur - the more I look at this, the more I suspect you are right about the initials and the India link - most of the photos we have of him are taken in India.  I did find this link, indicating a presence that may be them (52nd Light Infantry) in 1940...

I will read a little more..

It would be good to know what on earth they were doing with this dustbin-sized trophy!


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What is this Occupation?
« on: Saturday 12 November 11 14:17 GMT (UK)  »

Probably a bit late but....

This is a very useful web site for old occupations and appears to correlate with Rena's posting


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / WWII Army Photo?
« on: Saturday 12 November 11 13:53 GMT (UK)  »

Can anyone help me to identify this photograph and what this cup may have been presented for?  My grandfather, Frederick G C Smart, is 2nd from the left and was a serving member of the Army during WW11.  He served with the Ox and Bucks Light Infantry (OBLI) as a Captain, eventually becoming a Major (Hon). 

The cup appears to be marked with "Julius Challenge Cup.  MIIOW 1940/4" but could be wrong there - photographer was also very adept at chopping off heads!  We are not sure whether it is an Army event but the style of the buildings behind and the dress code of all the chaps involved leans towards that assumption.

We know that he was a keen sportsman and enjoyed polo, sailing, boxing and a variety of other sports and participated in the Army games.   He served in India and we understand he also had involvement in the training of troops for the Pegasus Bridge assault.

Any assistance in identifying where this photo may have been taken, who else may be in it and what the occasion may have been will be very gratefully received as we have no clue whatsoever to date.

Thank you very much

Suffolk / BARKER family from Suffolk
« on: Friday 11 November 11 10:04 GMT (UK)  »

Seeking any information on George Robert Barker, b. c1872 Burton on Trent.

In 1891 he is living with his parents, Robert and Hannah in Lowestoft
He marries Emily Selina Moore on 1st Aug 1897 in Suffolk.
1in 1901 he is living in Victoria Road, Carlton Colville, Lowestoft with his wife and his occupation is a General Labourer.
In 1911, they are found at 4, Short Street, Lowestoft with children George Henry(b.1902), Robert (b.1906) and Frank Ronald (b.1908), all of whom were born in Kirkley.

He serves in the First World war with the Royal Engineer Pioneers, 8th Labour Battalion and his address remains as 4 Short Street, Lowestoft.

In 1920, they live at Colville Road and in 1925, Emily Barker dies and is buried at Kirkley cemetery, Lowestoft.  George Barker is then listed as an absent voter in 1926 (military) at this address although his son, George is 23 and remains at the address.

From then no further trace can be found of George Robert Barker.  We have searched Kirkley cemetery records with no joy.  Can anyone help us to find out what happened to him?

Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this.
Best wishes

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