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Hi Jeremy,

Thank you so much for the fascinating information that you posted. I will definitely look into learning more about a possible connection between the "Canewdon Harts" and my gg grandfather, William Hart, born +/- 1808 in Tendring, Essex, and who then lived in Canewdon.  It may be that William Hart and John Hart (who married Mary Scott) were brothers, as both were carpenters, both were born in Tendring, and both moved to Canewdon, where both married. After 1871, most of my Harts seem to have disappeared, although my research is ongoing. A William Hart died in +/- 1876 in Rochford (district), William James was in the Royal Engineers at Brompton Barracks in 1881, and John, my great grandfather was in Burma by 1879, where he married. I have not found any other members of the family on the 1881 census, so far. So, I'm still looking for Emma Hart (Miller), daughter Elizabeth Jane (born 1847), daughter Jessie (born 1855) son James (born 1859) or son Frederick (born 1862). William James Hart shows up on the 1901 census in Shipton Bellinger in Hampshire, where he was Clerk of Government Works. With him was his wife, Louisa (Adams), but no children.

I would love to go back to England again and explore the area, which is about the only part of England that I have never been to, or lived in. Perhaps one day, I'll get back there again. Until then, I will continue my research from here in Toronto. Again, many thanks for the fascinating information you have provided, I truly do appreciate it. If you should come across any further information about John Hart who married Mary Scott, I would be very grateful if you could share it.

Regards,
Judy (BritCanadian)

After seven years of searching, I have finally discovered where my great grandfather was born. He was John James Hart (usually referred to as John), born in 1852 in Canewdon. He was the son of William Hart and Emma Miller. William was born in abt 1808 in Tendring, and Emma was born in abt 1821 in Cricksea (although one census says Ostend).

The reason it took me so long to confirm that John Hart really was my great grandfather, is that he spent most of his life in India, and shows up in England again on the 1911 census in Gravesend, with his wife and two youngest children, all three of whom were born in India. John became a Captain in the Royal Engineers in India, but being the son of an illiterate carpenter, I was told by many people with extensive knowledge of both colonial life in India, as well as military knowledge, that it would have been next to impossible for him to have attained the rank of Captain, having come from such a modest family background.

However, it seems that John did achieve the next to impossible, and I have managed to trace quite a bit of his life in India. What I now hope to discover, is more about his parents, William and Emma. I know when and where they were born, but nothing of their parentage, or any carpenter apprenticeships entered into. Young John started out as a carpenter himself, as did his older brother William. By 1881, young William was at the School for Military Engineering, Royal Engineers Barracks, Brompton, Essex. I have no idea whether or not John was at the school or not, but by 1879, he was married and living in Rangoon, and working as an overseer for Burma Railways.

If anyone can shed any light on The marriage and parentage of William Hart, b 1808, Tendring, and Emma Miller, b 1821 in Cricksea (or possibly Ostend), I would be extremely grateful. I do have some details of John's five siblings, but initially, my research aim is to go further back.

Hi, and thank you for your kind offer of lookups for Cheshire marriages. Could you please look for the following?

George Rathbone b abt 1802 in Clotton, m Ann b abt 1811. Possible first child born 1829 in Delamere.

Thomas Rathbone (father of above) b abt 1785 in Kelshall, m Ann b abt 1783 in Burton. George, above, appears to be their first child.

Regards,

BritCanadian