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Nottinghamshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« on: Friday 30 April 21 04:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Helen,

I would interpret that as likely two Francis Bacons. The tax was payable by the occupier. Although I suppose that doesn't exclude one Francis Bacon occupying two houses, it is unlikely one would be exempt from tax while the other not. It was somewhat inconsistent in determining who was exempt from paying the tax but generally those with financial need (perhaps in receipt of poor relief, or of limited income or wealth) could receive an exemption certificate from the church or overseer of the poor. It is unlikely the same Francis would have to pay for one house and not the other. A notable exception might be in the case of a baker or similar profession, whose oven may be exempt from tax even if not otherwise exempt.

Alexander

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Nottinghamshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« on: Thursday 29 April 21 05:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi Helen,

Here are all the Bacons I could find in the county, a few in the parishes you mentioned....

1664

BLITHE
Henry Bacone, jun., 1 hearth (not chargeable)

CROMWELL
Samuel Bacon, 1 hearth, 2s.

DUNHAM
Francis Bacon, 1 hearth (not chargeable)

GIRTON
Henry Bacon, 2 hearths, 4s.

LANEHAM
Abigall Bacon, 1 hearth, 2s.
John Bacon, 3 hearths, 6s.

LOUDHAM
Mathew Bacon, 1 hearth (not chargeable)

NEWARK - APLETONGATE
Martin Bacon, 1 hearth (not chargeable)

THORNEY
John Bacon, 1 hearth, 2s.

WELLAUGH
James Bacon, 1 hearth, 2s.
Richard Bacon, 1 hearth (not chargeable)



1674

CLIFTON
Richard Bacon, 2 hearths

DUNHAM
Francis Bacon, 2 hearths
Francis Bacon, 1 hearth (discharged by certificate)

FISKERTON
Ellen Bacon, 1 hearth (discharged by certificate)

HALLAM
John Bacon, 1 hearth

HARBY
John Bacon, 1 hearth

LOUDHAM
Mathew Bacon, 1 hearth

KINOULTON
John Bacon, 2 hearths

NORTH COLLINGHAM
Eliz. Bacon, 1 hearth

THORNEY
John Bacon, 1 hearth

WELLOUGH cum OMPTON
James Bacon, 2 hearths
Richard Bacon, 3 hearths


Also looking at the parishes you specifically mentioned, note that there is no surviving return for Fiskerton in 1664. For the other places you mentioned both 1664 and 1674 seem complete.

Hope you find this helpful,

Alexander

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Nottinghamshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mike,

These are the only entries in the Hearth Tax for the names Job, Brockton, and Neale.

1664

EAST STOKE
Widow Brocton, 1 hearth (not chargeable)

fragment probably MANSFIELD WOODHOUSE
Mr. Neale, 4 hearths (8s)

1674

MANSFIELD WOODHOUSE
Mr. Neale, 3 hearths
Mr. Neale, 7 hearths

WARSOP (Stockholme)
Mr. Neale, 3 hearths

BINGHAM
John Jobbe, 1 hearth (discharged by certificate)

In the Protestation Returns (1641/2) there are no entries under Job or Brockton. The only Neale is Roger Neale recorded in West Leake.

Hope this helps. :)

Alexander

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Sanders of Watnall/Greasley
« on: Monday 15 February 21 15:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, thank you both.

For that marriage, I see that a William Saunders married Mary Hallam on 2 May 1750 at Greasley, according to the NFHS marriages and Phillimore's. I wonder if the bride's name was in error on the register. Will need to look into the Haslams/Hallams further.

There were a large family of Sanders at Beauvale, but I have not yet been able to connect William to them.

Thanks,
Alexander

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Nottinghamshire / Sanders of Watnall/Greasley
« on: Sunday 14 February 21 18:39 GMT (UK)  »
Got a family of Sander/Sanders/Saunders in Watnall, Greasley parish, but struggling to find the marriage and baptisms of their children.

William Sanders
b. c.1729
d. 1805 in Greasley

wife Ann
b. c.1727
d. 1763 in Greasley

Children (as noted in the will of William, and his son Williamís will)
 - Mary (married Robert Smith), b. c.1751, d. 1812 Greasley
 - Alice (married John Clarke), b. c.1751, d. 1821 Greasley
 - William Sanders, farmer of Watnall, b. c.1754, d. 1814 Greasley
 - Jemima (married Joseph Bembridge), b. c.1761, d. 1811 Greasley
 - John Sanders, baker of Bobbers Mill, Nottingham
 - Ann (married Thomas Lee of Arnold)

I canít find a marriage for William and Ann in the late 1740s/early 1750s, looked for variants Sander, Saunders, etc. Also struggling to find baptisms for the children. There are two possible baptisms I could find for John (1757) and Hannah (1759) Saunders in Greasley, both children of William and Ann, but unsure if they are the right ones, as I canít find any other siblings.

William and Ann have a headstone in Greasley churchyard which confirms their death dates.

Any ideas for finding their marriage or the missing baptisms? I have looked in Derbyshire and surrounding counties as well but no luck.

Thanks
Alexander

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: New GEDmatch T&Cs with 4 day deadline
« on: Monday 11 January 21 00:51 GMT (UK)  »
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When RootsChat last updated its terms you were not given an ultimatum to accept or delete your account. Your continued use of the site assumes you accepted those new terms.

Feel free to delete your kits from Gedmatch if you so desire, rather than relying on some automated process. Simply click on the pencil (edit) symbol next to the kit name, go to the Kit Removal tab, and follow the very easy steps to confirm deletion.

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Nottinghamshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Alexander
I hope this offer is still good.

I'd be grateful if you could look up any entries for 'SHIPSIDES' and variant spellings.
Most probably Gotham, or Plumtree.

Thanks very much

Hi Goldie,

Not spelled the same but I suspect these are related to your Shipsides. Took a bit of finding this spelling!

1664

WIDMERPOOL (only small fragment, all chargeable hearths missing)
Widow Sheepsids, 1 hearth, not chargeable

1674

EAST LEAKE
John Sheepesides, 1 hearth

GOTHAM
John Sheepesids, 1 hearth

The 1664 register for Gotham is quite damaged and only a fragment survives, so there could well have been there in 1664.

There is a John Shipman in Plumtree in 1674, but not sure if that is of any relevance.

Alexander

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Nottinghamshire Resources & Offers / Re: Offer: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there, would it be possible to look up anyone with the surname Flintham or variables in Hearth Tax or Protestation returns, if you could this would be extremely helpful. Many thanks in advance.

Hi Andrew, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Hope these are of some help to you!

1664 Hearth Tax

NEWARK TOWN

Kirkgate Disney
Francis Flintham, 1 hearth, not chargeable

Northgate
John Flintham, 2 hearths, 4s
Robert Flintham, 1 hearth, 2s

Milngate
Richard Flintham, 1 hearth, 2s

BESTHORPE
John Flintham, 1 hearth, 2s

WALESBY
Rog: Flintham, 1 hearth, 2s



1674 Hearth Tax

NORTH MUSKHAM
John Flintham, 1 hearth

NEWARK TOWN
North Gate
Samuel Flintham, 2 hearths

WALESBY
Alice Flintham, 1 hearth
George Flintham, 1 hearth



1641/2 Protestation Returns

WALESBY
Roger Flintham

SOUTH CLIFTON
Edward Flintham
John Flintham
Thomas Flintham

AVERHAM
John Flintham

CAUNTON
Thomas Flyntham (bachelor)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Child's name on 1850 census
« on: Wednesday 28 October 20 14:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for the ideas. I will look into Cyara variants. The family were English with no known ties to Ireland but it's worth a further look.

Chempat, I'm descended from Henry Slater's sister, so he's not my direct line of ancestry. Until recently it seemed Henry had vanished off the face of the earth as I could find him in no UK census, but just found a document related to probate in 1847 regarding the will of his grandfather, which helpfully recorded him as a brewer of Rochester, Monroe Co., New York. So I know this is the right Henry but no luck tracing any of the family further so far.

I do wonder if they could have gone to Canada since Rochester is so close the border.

Thanks
Alexander

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