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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
Its the quality of the NHS database as at 1991 that is the major issue.  My current experience (albeit based on one household) is that it is 33% accurate, so 67% inaccurate in respect of people born after 1915 who died prior to 1991, dying in England.  Updating by cross referencing against (for example) FreeBMD may be possible, but how many John Smiths die each year.  My father, born 1926, died in 1976 in England, death cert issued, but still seems to have been listed on the register in 1991.  His brother born 1930, died in 1980 in England, death cert issued, likewise.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
When you consider that the register was compiled in 1939, the NHS didn't exist until 1948 and the updates took place until 1991 at a time with no or little computing power available it is IMO not entirely surprising that the register was inaccurate by 1991.  Not sure if FindMyPast have made this quite clear enough, or if anyone has quantified the issue.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 16:41 GMT (UK)  »
So people born in the 1880s and 1890s probably have been redacted due to the NHS not updating their death records. I'd think though during 2014-2015 transcribing tha common sense would be someone born 1880-1900 would the most likely not be alive in 2015. Even people born pre 1880 may have been redacted.

No, anyone over 100 years old (alive or dead) has not been redacted.  The issue is with people born 1915- who have died and for whom the register has not been updated, and therefore have been redacted.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to all for the feedback.  In this particular case I'm 99% sure the closed records are the three children (including my late father).  They would all be at school, so no great interest in occupations etc.  Was just concerned at the fact that 2 of the 3 records should have been open, and whether this is indicative of the accuracy of the register as of 1991.  Both deaths occurred in England, one at home, one in hospital, full deaths certs issued in both cases.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 15:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, that's how I read it too.

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 15:25 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks for the link Dawn, very helpful.  As I am using FindMyPast on PAYG is your understanding that I would pay £25 for each correction?


The £25 is for the National Archives to open a redacted entry.

Any corrections (i.e. if the transcription does not agree with what the image shows) are done free of charge.

Cheers
Guy

Thanks for the reply.  Maybe I'm having (another?) senior moment, or maybe I need to phrase my question better, if so my apologies.  I am looking at a household where all three children are 'officially closed'.  I have UK death certs for all three (1993, 1976 and 1980) and would be asking that all three be opened.  Will that be done free of charge if I supply copies of the certs?

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 15:18 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry if this has been asked before.  I have just started to access records from the 1939 register, and have queries regarding 'officially closed' records.

I accessed the record which would contain my paternal grandparents, my father and his two brothers.  My grandparents records are shown, but all three of the children are 'closed'.  All three children are dead, all died in England, I have copies of the death certs for all three.  The eldest died in 1993, so I understand why his record is 'closed', but the others died in 1976 and 1980.  So my queries are:

I would appear to be seeing 2 out of 3 of the children incorrectly 'closed', is this typical of your experiences?

I have all three UK death carts, but I am using FindMyPast on PAYG at the moment, my subscription has lapsed.  How do I go about informing FindMyPast about the three deceased children?

Many thanks for any help.

Not all pre 1991 deaths were upated on the register, which is probably why your two are closed.

If you have the death certificates you can click on update records and follow the instructions to ask for them to be updated.

Thanks for your reply.  Are there stats available for the accuracy of the register by the time 1991 came round?  Maybe I was just unlucky with my first query, but 1 of 3 correct does not seem great.  I transcribe for FreeBMD and FreeCen so I understand transcription is not an exact science, but if the underlying data is poor...

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
Jonathan C

have a read here

https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/watch-1436591498.html

explains how & why it happens and how to sort it out

Thanks for the link Dawn, very helpful.  As I am using FindMyPast on PAYG is your understanding that I would pay £25 for each correction?

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The Common Room / Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 14:21 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry if this has been asked before.  I have just started to access records from the 1939 register, and have queries regarding 'officially closed' records.

I accessed the record which would contain my paternal grandparents, my father and his two brothers.  My grandparents records are shown, but all three of the children are 'closed'.  All three children are dead, all died in England, I have copies of the death certs for all three.  The eldest died in 1993, so I understand why his record is 'closed', but the others died in 1976 and 1980.  So my queries are:

I would appear to be seeing 2 out of 3 of the children incorrectly 'closed', is this typical of your experiences?

I have all three UK death carts, but I am using FindMyPast on PAYG at the moment, my subscription has lapsed.  How do I go about informing FindMyPast about the three deceased children?

Many thanks for any help.

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