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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Friday 09 December 22 03:51 GMT (UK)  »
1. There is a Beatrice Noel Read born Naas, Co. Kildare, Ireland in Apr 1914 Qtr. I cannot find info regarding her parents. Perhaps William Arthur Read and Beatrice Ellen Goodman were stationed in Ireland with the Army at this time.

2. Beatrice Noel Read married Brian Thomas Hitchins Apr 1939 Qtr at Deben, Suffolk (if she is the correct Beatrice Noel Read, then she would have been 25 in 1939).

3. When, RSM William Arthur Read, MSM, born 1882 3rd Qtr Samford Reg. District, died 29 Jan 1961 Ipswich Reg. District, he left his estate to Beatrice Noel Hitchens, married woman. This would make Beatrice Noel Read the daughter of William Arthur and Beatrice Ellen Goodman. Is that likely ?

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Wednesday 07 December 22 20:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rds. When checking out your connection to William Arthur Read, perhaps take the following into consideration:
At the Weselyan Chapel, Pyle Street, Newport, Isle of Wight on 25 Oct 1911, William Arthur Read, 29, Bachelor, Sergeant 2 Battalion, Suffolk Regiment, Resident at time of marriage "Beulah", Clatterford Royal, Carisbrooke; father Edwin Arthur Read, Gardener, married Beatrice Ellen Goodman, 24, Spinster, Resident at time of marriage same address as Read above, father William Goodman, Captain in Army (Retired). [Captain in Indian Army Department].vMother of William Arthur Read was Alice Augusta Read (not found maiden name yet).

William Arthur Read born 01 Aug 1882, Holton St Mary, Suffolk

Beatrice Ellen Goodman, father William Goodman, mother Ellen Jane Godden, born 24 Aug 1887, Dum Dum (now name of airport for Calcutta), West Bengal, died 19 Mar 1964, Ipswich, Suffolk.

On 13 Nov 1913, baptised at St John the Evangelist (Bath) Leonard Alfred, son of Arthur and Beatrice Ellen Read, abode 27 Hungerford Road, Weston, Bath, occupation painter.

William Goodman aged 26 (born about 1859), father John Goodman, married Ellen Jane Godden or Goddess, aged 20 (born about 1865), father George Godden or Goddess, on 3 Feb 1885, at Dum Dum, Bengal, India

Maybe of significance is a William James Goodman born in 1869 with father Henry Augustus Goodman, who married a Mary Margaret READ on 4 Oct 1897 in Bengal, India with father Robert Read. William James was 28 and Mary Margaret was 26 (born about 1871).

Hope this is helpful and not confusing matters further ! It could be that the Goodman family and Read family go back some way in time.

Cheers
francoso

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Tuesday 06 December 22 17:54 GMT (UK)  »
Rds. I think references to the "married woman" Beatrice Noel Hitchens also includes "Hitchins" so keep in mind both spellings when checking the name.
Cheers
francoso

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Monday 05 December 22 03:41 GMT (UK)  »
RSM William Arthur Read, MSM, born 1882 3rd Qtr Samford Reg. District, died 29 Jan 1961 Ipswich Reg. District. Probate of William Arthur Read of 13 Goring Road, Ipswich, died at Ipswich and Suffolk Hospital, Administration (and Will) London 10 April 1961 to Beatrice Noel Hitchens, married woman. Effects pounds 797 5s 1d. Do the names ring any bells ?
francoso

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 00:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks John for reminding me re MSM for Gallantry: that was the trigger Their is a small booklet published in 1979 compiled by Major J.D. Sainsbury, titled "For Gallantry in the performance of Military Duty". in that book there is only ONE MSM awarded to the Suffolk Regiment, No 4450 RSM W.A. Read, 2nd Bn Suffolk Regiment. I found further information on the man's award from "The Meritorious Service Medal --- The Immediate Awards 1916-1928" viz "His Majesty the King has been graciously pleased to approve the award of the meritorious Service Medal to the undermentioned Warrant Officers, Non Commissioned Officers, and Men, in recognition of devotion to duty and valuable services rendered whilst Prisoner of War or interned, which services have been brought to notice in accordance with terms of Army Order 193 of 1919. To be dated 5 May 1919.

He was part of the Standing Army as he embarked on 15 Aug 1914, thus qualifying got the 1914 Star. He also qualified for the "Mons Clasp" No. 2/1107. He was taken Prisoner of War.

His Medal Index Card states: Read, William A., Suffolk Regiment, W.O. 2 and then CSM 4450. 1914 Star, Clasp and Rosette dispatched 16 Jul 1920, British war Medal and Victory Medal. Date of Entry to Theatre of War 15-8-1914.

Has anyone got the Roll for QSA and KSA --- I gave away many of my books many years ago.

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Saturday 03 December 22 02:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again Rds. Further to above, the male in the photo wearing the medals is not A.F. Cobbold. Alfred Cobbold attested to the Rifle Brigade on 19 Oct 1899 but he served in India, Aden, Home, then WW I in Europe. Back to the drawing board.

francoso

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Friday 02 December 22 21:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rds. The medal top row far left is definitely the MSM with Field Marshall's Bust of GV; The medal next to it is most likely the Queen's Sudan medal 1896 -1898, which has a ribbon half yellow half black with a thin red line down the middle (not really distinguishable in the photo). This medal was awarded at the same time as the medal bottom row fat right which is the Khedive's Sudan medal 1896-1898 and has a yellow ribbon and a broad blue stripe down the middle (the desert and the Nile running through it).

Thus, top row L to R is: Meritorious Service Medal (Immediate Award) GV Field Marshall's Bust; Queen's Sudan Medal 1896-1898, Queen's South Africa 11 Oct 1899-31 May 1902, King's South Africa 1901-1902 with two bars South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902 (these were the only two bar awarded for the KSA medal)

Bottom row L to R: either the 1914 or 1914/15 Star (I think it would be the 1914 Star as your man was a full-time regular and would have been part of the standing arming when WW I broke out. The 1914 Star was awarded only to those who served in France or Belgium between 5 Aug 1914 and midnight on 22/23 Nov 1914. This is followed by the Victory Medal and then by the Khedive's Medal.

If this is indeed A.F. Cobbold's Medals, I will see what else I can find about him.

The medals being worn by the lady are from L to R: QSA with what looks like six bars (the bottom two appear to be issues rivetted together, The KSA with two bars South Africa 1901 and 1902, the 1914 or 1914/15 Star, and the Victory Medal. And of course she is holding Queen Victoria's Box.
Best
francoso

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Suffolk / Re: Old Suffolk Photo – Who are they?
« on: Friday 02 December 22 10:54 GMT (UK)  »
The man in the photo is wearing the Meritorious Service Medal, MSM (top row, far left). Many of these medals were issued between 1916 and early 1920s as Immediate Awards (as opposed to Annuity  Awards of the MSM, which carried a pension. One of these Immediate awards was earned by Corporal/Acting Sergeant A.F. Cobbold in the second quarter of 1918. London Gazette 17 June 1918:
"His Majesty the King has been graciously pleased to approve of the award of the Meritorious Service Medal to the undermentioned Warrant Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and Men, in recognition of the valuable services rendered with the Forces in France during the present war: ---
Then follows a list of 4,251 names including A.F. Cobbold. A.F. Cobbold was serving with the Bedfordshire Regiment. He is the only "Cobbold" to be awarded the Immediate MSM.

There is a memorial in Ipswich of soldiers from Suffolk who lost their lives during the Second Boer War 1899 -1902. Among them is: Private Harry COBBOLD, 1st Suffolk Regiment. Disease, 7.3.1902.

In addition, further Suffolk soldiers who died in the same war in South Africa are listed on the War Memorial in Bury St Edmunds, including Private C. Cobbold, 2nd King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry, died of disease 6 Feb 1900.

If I find any further info I'll post it.

francoso

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Suffolk, Shimpling: translation of Latin to English, Reign of Henry VIII
« on: Tuesday 15 November 22 18:35 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, once again, Bookbox, brilliant.
regards
francoso

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