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Technical Help / Re: Rootschat very slow today
« on: Thursday 11 August 11 17:24 BST (UK) »
doubt it, the sites been down all day ....
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Buckinghamshire / Re: Montague family from Bucks
« on: Thursday 11 August 11 17:21 BST (UK) »Moderator Comment: Details of living person removed. Please do not give details of anybody born after 1920 unless you know they are deceased.
Is 1920 a hard & fast rule now?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Thursday 11 August 11 14:26 BST (UK) »Quote
Thomas can be seen with 'your' William on the 1841 I posted... Embarrassed
think so
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 18:44 BST (UK) »
so wheres the William / Eliza couple in 1871 onward, and which Eliza died in 1874 !
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 18:34 BST (UK) »
LOLOL I dont believe it - there's 2 Sissel(l) families in Kensal Road Chelsea ... the one headed by William, married to an Eliza, and the other is headed by the Thomas also married to an Eliza, that I've been following - & who DOES have a dau Eliza in 1861 (and 1871 as we saw, and who married Mr Munday !)
1861 census of Chelsea - RG9/Piece: 39 Folio: 67 Page: 23 @ Kensal Road ...
Thomas Sessel (sic) 40 Head born Willesden: Gen Labourer
Eliza Sessel 39 Wife Willesden
Annie Sessel 14 dau Chelsea
Louisa Sessel 9 dau ditto
Eliza Sessel 5 dau ditto
Marriages Sep 1844
ALLEN Abraham Kensington 3 274
BOLTON William Kensington 3 274
BUARDSELL Ann Kensington 3 274
COURTNEY Charlotte Kensington 3 274
LOWE William Kensington 3 274
REEVES Eliza Kensington 3 274
SAUNDERS Louisa Kensington 3 274
SISSELL Thomas Kensington 3 274
Thomas can be seen with 'your' William on the 1841 I posted...
1861 census of Chelsea - RG9/Piece: 39 Folio: 67 Page: 23 @ Kensal Road ...
Thomas Sessel (sic) 40 Head born Willesden: Gen Labourer
Eliza Sessel 39 Wife Willesden
Annie Sessel 14 dau Chelsea
Louisa Sessel 9 dau ditto
Eliza Sessel 5 dau ditto
Marriages Sep 1844
ALLEN Abraham Kensington 3 274
BOLTON William Kensington 3 274
BUARDSELL Ann Kensington 3 274
COURTNEY Charlotte Kensington 3 274
LOWE William Kensington 3 274
REEVES Eliza Kensington 3 274
SAUNDERS Louisa Kensington 3 274
SISSELL Thomas Kensington 3 274
Thomas can be seen with 'your' William on the 1841 I posted...
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 18:03 BST (UK) »
Did you see the marriage update to show that the correct Eliza was WHELDON?
In 1871 RG10/Piece: 91 Folio: 14 Page: 22 Chelsea (Kensal Town?), same address as 1861, the Family is transcribed SIFFELL.
William is now calling himself Thomas, and the only children at home are Eliza jnr, aged 13 occupation Nursemaid - & Louisa who has Married an Edward Harper - they have 2 kids.
Now, theres no matching Eliza aged 2 or 3 in the 1861 we saw, so I'd bet that this is in fact Hannah 
(Eliza snr dies 1874 - and Thomas in 1893
Deaths Jun 1893
Sissell Thomas 73 Kensington 1a 67
Ah, Thomas Sissell (PoB shown Harlesden Green) is a Lodger with William and Eliza Munday in Chelsea, @ 1, Church Street in 1881 - RG11/Piece: 90 Folio: 41 Page: 6 .... I cant see the Munday's marriage, but I'm wondering if the Eliza is Thomas/Williams dau after all ?
Damnit - so where was she in 1861 ?
Marriages Mar 1875
Munday William Kensington 1a 216
SISSEL Eliza Kensington 1a 216
SISSELL Eliza Kensington 1a 216
See next posting ....
William is now calling himself Thomas, and the only children at home are Eliza jnr, aged 13 occupation Nursemaid - & Louisa who has Married an Edward Harper - they have 2 kids.
(Eliza snr dies 1874 - and Thomas in 1893
Deaths Jun 1893
Sissell Thomas 73 Kensington 1a 67
Ah, Thomas Sissell (PoB shown Harlesden Green) is a Lodger with William and Eliza Munday in Chelsea, @ 1, Church Street in 1881 - RG11/Piece: 90 Folio: 41 Page: 6 .... I cant see the Munday's marriage, but I'm wondering if the Eliza is Thomas/Williams dau after all ?
Damnit - so where was she in 1861 ?
Marriages Mar 1875
Munday William Kensington 1a 216
SISSEL Eliza Kensington 1a 216
SISSELL Eliza Kensington 1a 216
See next posting ....
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 16:56 BST (UK) »
Transcribed Jessel in 1851 Chelsea - HO107/Piece: 1474 Folio: 578 Page: 12 @ Winson Cottage with more older kids:-
William Jessel 32 Head born Willesden: Labourer
Eliza Jessel 22 Wife ditto
Francis Jessel 8 dau Willesden
Eliza Jessel 6 dau Paddington
William Jessel 4 son ditto
Alfred Jessel 2 son ditto
and William's own family in 1841 ...
HO107/Piece 690/Book: 17 Civil Parish: Willesden Folio: 18 Page: 3 @ Kilburn Lane
all state born in County
Rachel Sissel 33 Laundress
William Sissel 18
Thomas Sissel 16
Rachel Sissel 14
Hannah Sissel 12
Louisa Sissel 10
David Sissel 7
William Jessel 32 Head born Willesden: Labourer
Eliza Jessel 22 Wife ditto
Francis Jessel 8 dau Willesden
Eliza Jessel 6 dau Paddington
William Jessel 4 son ditto
Alfred Jessel 2 son ditto
and William's own family in 1841 ...
HO107/Piece 690/Book: 17 Civil Parish: Willesden Folio: 18 Page: 3 @ Kilburn Lane
all state born in County
Rachel Sissel 33 Laundress
William Sissel 18
Thomas Sissel 16
Rachel Sissel 14
Hannah Sissel 12
Louisa Sissel 10
David Sissel 7
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 16:40 BST (UK) »
and the parents nuptials ?
Marriages Jun 1844
Anderson Martha Kensington 3 261
CISEELL William Kensington 3 261
CISELL William Kensington 3 261
Clay Alfred Kensington 3 261
EWERS Charlotte Ann Kensington 3 261
Hayward Spencer Kensington 3 261
MORRIS Elisa Kensington 3 261
Morris Eliza Kensington 3 261
Smith Thomas Kensington 3 261
Wheldon Eliza Kensington 3 261
PR version:-
Name - William Cisell (a Bachelor, Labourer of Dudley Street)
of Full Age
Father' Name - Thomas Cisell, Labourer
Spouse's Name - Eliza Wheldon, Spinster, Full Age also of Dudley Street
Spouse's Father Name - William Wheldon, Clerk to Wharfinger
Record Type - Marriage (witnessd by John & Harriet Suchett)
Marriage Date 02 Jun 1844
Parish of St James, Paddington
County of Middlesex
Borough of Westminster
Marriages Jun 1844
Anderson Martha Kensington 3 261
CISEELL William Kensington 3 261
CISELL William Kensington 3 261
Clay Alfred Kensington 3 261
EWERS Charlotte Ann Kensington 3 261
Hayward Spencer Kensington 3 261
MORRIS Elisa Kensington 3 261
Morris Eliza Kensington 3 261
Smith Thomas Kensington 3 261
Wheldon Eliza Kensington 3 261
PR version:-
Name - William Cisell (a Bachelor, Labourer of Dudley Street)
of Full Age
Father' Name - Thomas Cisell, Labourer
Spouse's Name - Eliza Wheldon, Spinster, Full Age also of Dudley Street
Spouse's Father Name - William Wheldon, Clerk to Wharfinger
Record Type - Marriage (witnessd by John & Harriet Suchett)
Marriage Date 02 Jun 1844
Parish of St James, Paddington
County of Middlesex
Borough of Westminster
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: trying to find a birth record
« on: Wednesday 10 August 11 16:32 BST (UK) »
How about ?
RG9/Piece: 39 Folio: 61 Page: 12 Chelsea St Luke @ Kensal Road, Vale of Health?
William Sissell 42 Head of Household born Middx, Willesden: Navvy & General Labourer
Eliza Sissell 39 Wife born Paddington
William Sissell 15 son Paddington
Alfred Sissell 12 son St Lukes Chelsea
Louisa Sissell 7 dau St Lukes Chelsea
Thomas Sissell 4 son St Lukes Chelsea
Hannah Sissell 2 dau born Middx, St Lukes Chelsea
RG9/Piece: 39 Folio: 61 Page: 12 Chelsea St Luke @ Kensal Road, Vale of Health?
William Sissell 42 Head of Household born Middx, Willesden: Navvy & General Labourer
Eliza Sissell 39 Wife born Paddington
William Sissell 15 son Paddington
Alfred Sissell 12 son St Lukes Chelsea
Louisa Sissell 7 dau St Lukes Chelsea
Thomas Sissell 4 son St Lukes Chelsea
Hannah Sissell 2 dau born Middx, St Lukes Chelsea