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Gloucestershire / Re: George Williams marriage to Miss Carpenter
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 22:43 BST (UK) »
No, she's a spinster. Daughter of Thomas Powell (dec)
Martin was asking if Martha Matilda may have been previously married, not Mary.
Debra
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The Common Room / Re: Two Birth Records Six Years Apart - Same Person
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 16:08 BST (UK) »5
Gloucestershire / Re: George Williams marriage to Miss Carpenter
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 14:50 BST (UK) »
That death is her.
Birth
WILLIAMS, FREDERICK JAMES
Mother's maiden surname: CARPENTER
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 87
Baptism
Name Frederick James WILLIAMS
Father's Name George WILLIAMS
Mother's Name Martha Matilda WILLIAMS
Event Type Christening
Event Date 15 Feb 1886
Event Place Barking Road, Essex, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XK8P-TJP
Debra
Birth
WILLIAMS, FREDERICK JAMES
Mother's maiden surname: CARPENTER
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 87
Baptism
Name Frederick James WILLIAMS
Father's Name George WILLIAMS
Mother's Name Martha Matilda WILLIAMS
Event Type Christening
Event Date 15 Feb 1886
Event Place Barking Road, Essex, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XK8P-TJP
Debra
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Gloucestershire / Re: George Williams marriage to Miss Carpenter
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 14:43 BST (UK) »
Marriage in Canning Town in 1890.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZN9-7DF
George's address is the same as the 1891 census and he is a widower at marriage. Mary's residence is Wales but the 1891/1901/1911 says she was born in Woolaston. There is a Mary POWELL of the right age in Woolaston with a father Thomas.
I guess that the mother of the children died and Mary POWELL is his second wife. Son George was born in 1889 and the only age appropriate death that I can see in West Ham is this one...
WILLIAMS, MARTHA MATILDA
Age 36
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 78
George didn't muck about if that is her but I suppose a young family needs a mother. I wonder if she was related in some way.
Debra
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZN9-7DF
George's address is the same as the 1891 census and he is a widower at marriage. Mary's residence is Wales but the 1891/1901/1911 says she was born in Woolaston. There is a Mary POWELL of the right age in Woolaston with a father Thomas.
I guess that the mother of the children died and Mary POWELL is his second wife. Son George was born in 1889 and the only age appropriate death that I can see in West Ham is this one...
WILLIAMS, MARTHA MATILDA
Age 36
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 78
George didn't muck about if that is her but I suppose a young family needs a mother. I wonder if she was related in some way.
Debra
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Cornwall / Re: Birth and marriage not found
« on: Friday 19 April 24 10:59 BST (UK) »
You could start by giving us an approximate date for the birth and marriage and we could see if he might be deceased or not.
Debra
Debra
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: No birth certificate that I can find
« on: Friday 19 April 24 04:47 BST (UK) »
On his death cert 4-6-1978 it states date & place of birth 24th October 1890, Wakefield Yorks.
Are you sure? That DOB is for the son of William and Sarah mentioned earlier. Is this the death cert you have?
John Henry JACQUES
26 Oct. 1899
Apr 1978
Apr-May-Jun
Basford, Nottinghamshire
Looking at the index scan I think it should be 24 Oct. but it does look like 1899. Is that incorrect?
Debra
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: No birth certificate that I can find
« on: Friday 19 April 24 02:04 BST (UK) »There is a John JAQUES registered in Barnsley in 1895 ( indexed as JAGUES on GRO - mother's name WOOLHOUSE), have you discounted that one ?
I have ordered the certificate
What do you expect to find by seeing that certificate? The father's name is wrong, and it isn't the right quarter.
I have gone with his parents as Jonathan and Sarah Jane but no-one in the family (that's left) knows.
That one is this birth registration.
JAQUES, JOHN
Mother's maiden surname: THORNTON
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 165
He married Mary WOOD at Bingley in 1917, father Jonathan a reed and heald maker.
Debra