Hi All,
Thank again for the helpful information and where to start. What I landed up doing was going back to a 1939 newspaper here that had the wedding of my grandfather and grandmother with a picture and a write up about where the wedding took place and bridesmaids etc, low and behold it named the parents( my great grandparents ), from there the tree went back to them coming to Canada from England, found their entry and siblings that were born in England and have gotten back as far as the late 1600's on both sides now.
ps: no truth to the rumour his father was a home child