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Thanks everyone for your responses. You have the correct James Edward Clutterbuck in the 1911 Census. I will go through these and pass the details to my friend in our retirement complex.
Thanks again for your assistance
Wildcats13

I am trying to confirm the family line for our John Murray (1781-1857) who came to Sydney, Australia in 1833 on the ship Eliza, with wife Ruth Proctor and children Ruth (7) & George Edward Murray (11).
I found a marriage detail for John's father Patrick Murray, who married Hannah Sinkins, Banns date    1 Nov 1779, Banns Place: Exeter, St Paul, Devon, England. Patrick was born about 1747 in Cashel, near Ballymahon, Longford, Ireland and died 7 Aug 1826 in Exeter, Devon, England, as did Hannah in November 1823.
On 5 Nov 1794 • UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioners
Patrick was discharged from Hospital. Apothecary in 50th Regiment & others. Served 26 years. Private. Worn out & wounds. (see attachment)
My main concern relates to John's Gr. Grandfather (Patrick Murray) & Gr. GR. Grandfather (George Murray). This Patrick was born about 1725 in Armagh, Killybearn, County Tyrone (Ireland 1766 (Religish Census) and believe he was a Corporal in the 50th & 52nd Regiment. I have read where Patricks parents were George Murray & Amelia Murray, and that indicates that this was Lord George Murray who was born in Huntingtower, Perthshire, Scotland. From what I have been able to find so far, there was no Patrick born to this George Murray.
I have searched the UK Parish register and the General Register Office for Northern Ireland without success, and still to check the UK Muster and war records, but don't believe I will find the parent details between Patrick & George necessary to confirm the family line. I am hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the problem

Hi, I am trying to find the parents of David Brown, who was a convict that was convicted in Glasgow in 1788 of house breaking when he was 16 years old and sentenced to transportation for life with 7 years of service. The ship 'Pitt' with David aboard, sailed from Yarmouth on 17 Jul 1791 and he arrived in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia on 14th February 1792.
I have seen notes where he was possibly born in 1772 at Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and that he was a Soldier in the 74th Highland Regiment of Foot formed in Argyllshire under Major Ross. I understand that regiment didn't start until 1787, so would they have conscripted him at such a young age.
I also saw where he lived in 1783 in Glasgow, Scotland, but couldn't confirm that. I have also searched Scottish Peoples for David's birth details without being sure who were his parents.
Is it possible to obtain records from his court case that may shed some light on his history? I also found another note where he lived on 24th April 1788 in Glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland!.

I have the details of his life in Australia where he married a Eleanor Fleming in 1800 in Parramatta, NSW, and later was successful in obtaining land and farming. They had 12 children
Eleanor arrived in Sydney on 28 Aug 1791 on the ship 'William and Ann' with her parents Joseph and Mary as free immigrants.
Eleanor's father Joseph was a soldier in the New South Wales Corps.

Hoping you can assist with some details about David's parents.
Wildcats13

I was surprised to see your reply to my Private message that you think I thought your research regarding my Benjamin Barnes was “absolute rubbish”. I have never, and would never think that of good people like yourself that spends time and effort in trying to solve issues for people like me who are just trying to put together their family tree, without the resources that you have available.
What I said and what I was trying to convey was, that I had got confirmation from Parish Registers that Benjamin was baptized on 6 May 1849, son of James Barnes and Prudence Matthews, the correct parents. My only concern was, are we talking about the same Benjamin Barnes? As I explained, Benjamin & Nanny were married on 8 June 1867 in Madron, Cornwall, England as per Parish Register Marriage File Line Number. 313, and the 1871 Census shown in this Topic indicates that Benjamin was 23 years old, Nanny 20 years old and the 2 children were born about 1867 and 1871 and later Nanny born 1872.
I was not doubting what you found in the States, but purely the DOB of 1858 for Benjamin. If that information is anywhere correct, then the results in the paragraph above could not be achieved, and there must be something wrong with the Parish Registers and Census results. I don’t think I can explain my thoughts at the time any better, and thank you again for your efforts.
Peter

Looking for the death details of Benjamin Barnes, son of James Barnes & Prudence Matthews, who was born in April Qtr. 1849 in Penzance, and married Nanny James Trathan in 8 June 1867 in Madron, Cornwall.
Nanny died in March Qtr. 1910 in Penzance. Tried the Census Rolls but he only seems to appear in them up until 1861, everywhere else just indicates he was deceased.
Hope you can help.
Peter