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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Monday 11 April 22 14:12 BST (UK) »
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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Monday 11 April 22 12:10 BST (UK) »
Good spot - yes Charlotte 1868 for sure and Alfred's discharge was 1876
Wonder why the discharge mentions them both?
Wonder why the discharge mentions them both?
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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Monday 11 April 22 09:48 BST (UK) »
Hi cuffie
Yes I had come across that one. There are lots of threads and far too many loose ends at the moment to give a tenable link through this David
I have solid evidence that my gggGrandfather Alfred Winfield did have parents David and Charlotte as they were named on his discharge papers from the Royal Marine Light Infantry - annoyingly no address
Can see a long slop getting the truth out of these lines
Thanks for the help though and a great find
Yes I had come across that one. There are lots of threads and far too many loose ends at the moment to give a tenable link through this David
I have solid evidence that my gggGrandfather Alfred Winfield did have parents David and Charlotte as they were named on his discharge papers from the Royal Marine Light Infantry - annoyingly no address
Can see a long slop getting the truth out of these lines
Thanks for the help though and a great find
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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Thursday 07 April 22 19:12 BST (UK) »
Indeed. One report quoted that Alfred (her son) once stole £150 from her .. these days thats nearly £20,000 ...
My link to David and Charlotte is Alfred who is my gggGrandfather. but beyond him Im in the land of maybes and vagueries as I cant find his birth certificate and he and Charlotte, are missing from the 1861 census. Alfred ended up a jobbing sailor
If you do dig up any more info I will be eternally grateful as I have been stuck on this nasty pair for 8 years ...
My link to David and Charlotte is Alfred who is my gggGrandfather. but beyond him Im in the land of maybes and vagueries as I cant find his birth certificate and he and Charlotte, are missing from the 1861 census. Alfred ended up a jobbing sailor
If you do dig up any more info I will be eternally grateful as I have been stuck on this nasty pair for 8 years ...
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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Thursday 07 April 22 18:02 BST (UK) »
Yes he was married to Charlotte, who herself was sentenced to 15 years in 1868 but died in Millbank Prison
He came from money (so did she) and his occupation on the census was "Annuitant" but it seems money doesnt stop you from going rotten!
The report says he got a £50 fine and he left with Charlotte ... a thread still seems to be missing as to why he was imprisoned, unless he tried again?
Lovely article and a great find Cuffie!
Kind regards!
He came from money (so did she) and his occupation on the census was "Annuitant" but it seems money doesnt stop you from going rotten!
The report says he got a £50 fine and he left with Charlotte ... a thread still seems to be missing as to why he was imprisoned, unless he tried again?
Lovely article and a great find Cuffie!
Kind regards!
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Surrey / Re: Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Thursday 07 April 22 16:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie - another avenue 
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Surrey / Surrey County Gaol/Horsemonger Lane Gaol
« on: Thursday 07 April 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi all
Struggling to find records of prisoner commitment/release from Surrey County Gaol. I (may) have a relative, David Winfield, who appears in the 1851 census in gaol but cant find when/why he was admitted nor any release records
Have tried usual online routes, Ancestry, FindMyPast, Surrey History Centre but no trace
Would any of you kind folk know where else I could check? Im in the Midlands so a visit to Surrey will be a last resort
Thanks
Cliff
Struggling to find records of prisoner commitment/release from Surrey County Gaol. I (may) have a relative, David Winfield, who appears in the 1851 census in gaol but cant find when/why he was admitted nor any release records
Have tried usual online routes, Ancestry, FindMyPast, Surrey History Centre but no trace
Would any of you kind folk know where else I could check? Im in the Midlands so a visit to Surrey will be a last resort
Thanks
Cliff
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« on: Tuesday 05 April 22 13:37 BST (UK) »
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