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Dear Annette,

Finally, I've located the records.  Yes, as I have always thought, Minnie was his mother.  I guess I will never know who my great grandfather was. 

Thank you so much. 

Linda

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Dear Annette,

Thank you for taking the time to look into this for me.  There is no link to click on and I've spent an hour trying to find your source. 

Would you be kind enough to provide the link for me to look at this.

I notice that Knight is one of your surnames.  My grandfather married Bessie Knight from Hayle.  Where is your Knight from?

Linda

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Thank you for moving this as I wasn't sure how to get back to the original thread.

Linda   

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Even when the British gov't statistics and records couldn't find my grandfather, Percival Powning Trestrail in their records, I started to image that he was born in a barn and hidden from the world until he showed up in the 1891 census as a 5 yr. old living with his grandparents. 

There were 2 Percival Powning Trestrails  born in a close time frame and one died by 1886. 

But after I got a refund from the birth certificate search from the British govt records people, I persisted and wrote back with more detail. 

I found him.  Just as I suspected.  And I am most certain who his mother is but the British Records Office said there is NO listing for a father.  And he was listed as Percy Powning Trestrail not Percival, and the date of his birth is Feb. 26, 1886, not Feb. 26, 1885. 

I'm being offered to re-submit the 10 pounds to get this birth certificate, but it will not tell me who his father is.  I feel sad, I'll probably never know and tracing my lineage will end at this mystery on my grandfather's paternal side, but I'll continue with his grandparents, William and Elizabeth Powning Trestrail. 

Taking a long shot, I replied to the response from the British Records, and asked them if they would agree to confirm my intuition on who my grandfather's mother was & if I was wrong, then I'd apply for the birth certificate.  I wasn't asking them to give it away, but if I am right, it would be kindly of the supervisor who wrote to me to verify the name I gave her.  Do I need his birth certificate for any official business?  No. 

I have vague memories of Percy's naturalization papers stating that Albert Trestrail was his father, but he did have an Albert Trestrail for an uncle.

Where can I get his naturalization records?  Thank you for any help there. 

I'll have an answer or not on the name of my great grandmother very soon.

:-)))

Linda   

     

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Durham / Re: mcgarrell/wilson/trainor/trestrail/solomon
« on: Wednesday 11 April 12 23:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ian,

Wow, my name is Linda Wilson McParland!!!   (nee Trestrail).    You will love this site.  The people are friendly and so helpful, and I've become friends with a Trestrail who has devoted many years to tracing the Trestrail name.  I have relatives who moved from Hayle to Gateshead and I believe that Dorothy is in my family.  I am getting ready to have a new computer put in place of this one and my son needs to get in here to work.  It's my birthday and we are going out later with my drum circle friends.  I will be more than happy to assist you tomorrow.

This is addictive and fascinating work & I believe it is a way of honoring our family by finding them and remembering who they are and where we've come from.   

Welcome to the wonderful world of tracing our roots.
Linda

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Dear Osprey

WOW.   Today is my 62nd birthday and instead of going somewhere or making myself a nice hot meal (its raining and damp and raw here on Long Island & the heat is off in my 82 year old house) I'm sitting here in the colder part of the house on the computer just a gasp at what you've sent. 

I am now living in the Victorian ages as though I'm reading a Cornish novel about the lives of these families, and then it hits me that they are my relatives,and the emotional element gets stirred up inside.  I'm riveted to all of their stories, and it's almost too much to sort out in my mind without drawing on pages and pages of scribble notes with boxes connecting them to each other.  With your help I've traced 6 male generations of GILLS from my grandfather, Horace H. Gill to Charles Jasper Gill  to Thomas Hocking Gill to Richard Gill (cholera) to Francis Gill to his father Richard Gill. 

I wish I could include in my budget a membership to Ancestry.com as I see they have so many links to other online members, but it's not in my budget, right now. 

As to Sarah Hocking Gill George, it looks like she left her son, Thomas Hocking Gill with her second husband in Helston, and moved to Breage to live with a grandfather, mother and 5 year old son, John George. 

Don't you wish they could talk to us from afar and tell us their stories?  This is where imagination and personal visualization in our minds comes in.  I've even been studying up on cholera since learning Richard Gill died from it at such a young age.

How can I definitely find out what happened to Sarah?  She died at 42?  So young.  Lost a husband who was only 34, remarried, had a son at age 30 by her second husband, and then died when her son John George was only 12.   Even though he is not a direct blood relative, I'm going to see if I can find John George who was born in 1836 in the census.  Did he go back with his father, John George in Helston after his Mother's death?  His grandfather Francis had already died in 1830, His father died in 1833, his mother died in 1845 was he was 9.  And what about Thomas?  He was 19 when his Mother died.  He didn't marry until 14 years later in 1859 to Sarah Hocking so where did he live?  He was a tailor all his life, I think. 

And then there is Elizabeth Gill married to Francis in 1791.  Did they only have two children?  Richard and Joan?  And why is Joan living with her Mother at age 40?  Is she disabled or impaired or just a spinster?  Francis died at age 65 in 1830, and Elizabeth was still alive at age 70 on the 1841 census.  So what happened to Joan??

I am going to look and see if I can find better literature on the period in 1845 in Helston, Breage, Wendron regarding the epidemics in Cornwall.

Hugs and a big Mmmmwah for all you have researched for me.  I understand how time consuming this all is so your efforts are much appreciated.

Linda Trestrail
Long Island   



   

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When I came across pages and pages of ELizabeth Roberts I was shocked.

I cannot do anymore at this time.  I am not even sure that Elizabeth Roberts married Francis Gill in 1791 in Wendron.  I know the Gills were from Wendron and that Francis Gill is the next in line but can't verify any more at this time.


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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Gill in Wendron & Helston 1700's
« on: Wednesday 11 April 12 03:44 BST (UK)  »
I don't see how I can go back any farther now.

And with all the right leads, documents I should rest on it for a while.

I have my lineage of Gills as such starting with my grandfather:

Horace Gill Cambourne b. Oct. 1896 Cambourne
married Ellis Island June 8, 1922
Elizabeth Mary Rubina Uren b. Aug. 7 1896 Cambourne
~~~
Charles Jasper Gill b. 1867 Cambourne
married June 1882
Alice Maude M. Trewin b. 1867 Cambourne
~~~
Thomas Hocking Gill  b. 1827 Helston 
married Dec. 12 1859
Ann Edwards b. 1824 
~~~
Richard Gill b. 1799
married August 25, 1825
Sarah Hocking b. ??
~~~
Francis Gill b. ??? 1765 possibly  Wendron
married July 22, 1791 ??? possibly
Elizabeth ??? Roberts possibly

Francis Gill possible death  July 16, 1830  age 65.  Wendron

It think that this is so fantastic that I even came this far thanks to the help of Osprey

It's my 62 birthday on April 11th so I think I'm signing off and getting a good night's sleep.  It's 10:45 PM in NY. 

Linda

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I am so thrilled to get myself back on the right avenue.  I was doing pretty good with what I had from family records but then when everyone started having the same gosh darn names at around the same time frame,  I got lost on a road parallel to the one I was supposed to be taking. So close but so far down the beaten path of my family history. 

Intuition plays some roll in doing ancestry work, and I'll share what I did.  I found a site from  Cambourne with a list of every single name documented form 1537 - 1800.  I was looking to see when Gill and Uren started showing up.  My eyeballs started aching, but I kept going.  Before I found any of the Gill & Uren names, I saw JASPER EDWARD from 1762 and paused, then wrote it down as the first name out of 36 names I'd list.  Why?  Because my great grandfather was Charles Jasper Gill and the name Jasper was unusual, to me. It turned out to be right.  Blimey. I was to find out that Edward was a family surname. 

UREN first appeared in Cambourne (from this list) in 1763 - Robert Uren son of Richard Nov. 20th.

GILL first appeared in Cambourne in 1808 - Mary Gill daughter of Richard and Catherine. April 11th. 

After I spent 3 hours doing this, I asked myself what was the point?  Get a life!!  :-)  But it was significant in that I discovered one thing - they didn't start acknowledging the husband AND wife's name until 1774.

And by doing this, I was now able to tell my 82 aunt who lives in my town in New York - a Cornish woman who was born Barbara Helen Gill at St. Michael's Mount in June 17 1930, that  we were not always from Cambourne, as she would like to believe we were. It's easier that way to say the Gills from Cambourne, but we are the Gills from Cambourne and Helston and who else knows were? 

I had intuitions about things like Helston being one of the towns we came from.  I was so attracted to Helston when I was in Cornwall in 1990.  I've been studying the history of Cornwall and that the cholera hit many homes killing everyone in families.  I wondered if it had affected someone in my family.....and I did research on the epidemics of Cornwall just 2 nights, ago, and printed it out. 

And OSPREY discovered that it did.

Today, I received such wonderful information from OSPREY , again, helping me in so many ways to find my true relatives, to place them in a family tree, and to honor them.     

Thank you so much.  I'm almost speechless.  You helped me find out WHERE my great great garndfather got his middle name from.  HOCKING.  This is significant. 

I believe I'm doing a less than stellar job keeping notes on my trail of discovery.  If this computer should crash, I'd be devastated so I'm keeping a folder with most of it, but not all.  I think I've got so much to correct, edit, and organize, I should stop for a little while over the next few weeks and get this cleaned up, and backed up. 

My 3.4 version of Family Tree is antiquated and will not allow me to upgrade or access ancestry.com.  My goal is to share this with everyone. I've got so much information on it and cannot import or export.  It's time to find another service like paying Family Tree for an upgraded software and then sharing it.  That is a LOT of re-doing what I've spent all winter doing. But why keep it for myself? 
 
Thank you OSPREY so much for your brilliant assistance.  I'm THRILLED at the documents.

Now I know that we are from Helston and that asiatic colera did take my great great great grandfather's life.  <3 <3 <3 Linda

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