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London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Thursday 13 August 20 16:23 BST (UK)  »

Thanks for all that; you've definitely eliminated this Gertrude.

Earlier, I came across a Gertrude E M COOK, and those 2 initials immediately caught my attention; could this be Gertrude Eleanor Mary? Her husband was (if I remember correctly) Charles, which would appear to rule her out, but it set me wondering if 'my' Gertrude had all three names?


London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Thursday 13 August 20 14:57 BST (UK)  »
As Rosie pointed out some time ago, Gertrude COOK was a real person who died in Enfield in 2000 at the age of 87, but who was she?

Thomas COOK's sister? No, he had 3 sisters, but none called Gertrude.

Thomas COOK's sister-in-law? No, he had 2 brothers, neither of whom married a Gertrude.

I have found, in 1939, Mrs Gertrude COOK, DoB 24 Jun 1911, living in Hampstead, but no sign of her husband This is not too far from Enfield, and the date at death could easily be a couple of years out, but this is far from conclusive evidence.

Any thoughts?

Cornwall / Re: GONINAN in Breage
« on: Wednesday 12 August 20 11:40 BST (UK)  »
I have 76 instances of he GONINAN surname, but I'm afraid not one Joseph.

Only one James, b in Breage 16.10.1641, bur 31.10.1641.

I have John GONINAN m Thomasin WILLYAMS 01.08.1699 in Breage plus 5 children, viz:-

Thomasin, 19 Sep 1700
Richard, 14 Apr 1703
John, 18 Feb 1705/06
Henry, 13 Sep 1711, bur 17 Sep 1711
Henry, 23 Apr 1717

I have marriages for Thomasin, Richard and Henry if you're interested

London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Thursday 06 August 20 12:07 BST (UK)  »
BC for TA has arrived, but still no sign of my other request which was scheduled for despatch on 24th.

DoB is 1st November 1947

TA's mother is confirmed as Eleanor Mary COOK formerly DOWNER.

Father is Petty Officer Walter John Thomas COOK RN.

Family address is 23 Primrose Avenue, Baker Street, Enfield

This must mean that JR's mother is Eleanor Mary COOK, and that she later decided to call herself 'Gertrude'; yes???


London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Saturday 01 August 20 08:44 BST (UK)  »

Don't hold your breath whist waiting for the BC scheduled for despatch yesterday. I'm still awaiting the arrival of a certificate from Kew which was scheduled for despatch on the 24th!


London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Thursday 30 July 20 22:20 BST (UK)  »
I'm happy with 'Thomas' because we know he was Walter John Thomas COOK, but Gertrude? If TA's BC confirms that Eleanor was his mother, I guess we'll just have to refer to'Eleanor aka Gertrude' which, to my mind, is not very satisfying, but I can't think what else to do.


London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Thursday 30 July 20 12:06 BST (UK)  »

Thanks for sorting that out for me.

W J Thomas COOK m Eleanor Mary DOWNES in Edmonton, 3Q 1938, and she died in Enfield, 3Q 1982. Therefore, she must have been the mother of JR in 1942 and TA in 1947.

Obviously, she was still married to Thomas in 1960, so who was Gertrude?

Let's hope the BC for TA (due for despatch tomorrow) will shed some light on this mystery.


London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Wednesday 29 July 20 15:34 BST (UK)  »
I now have a copy of the Will

Some facts and some thoughts

1.   In 1988, hes living in Mudeford with his wife, Maisie Ellen (note the order of her names; is she the Eleanor M DOWNES whom he married in 1938?)
2.   His sons are confirmed as JR and TA
3.   His wife has 2 sons who carry the surname SEAL. Presumably, she was a widow/divorcee, so what was her maiden name?
4.   If Maisie Ellen and Eleanor M are one-and-the-same person, she must be the mother of JR and TA. Who, then, is the Gertrude of 1960?
5.   His wife was still alive when he wrote his Will in 1988. Who, then, is the Eleanor Mary COOK who died in Sep 1982 in Enfield?

London and Middlesex / Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« on: Monday 27 July 20 12:11 BST (UK)  »
Will due by e-mail 29th July

BC due for despatch by post 31st

Thumb-twiddling time


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