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Europe / Re: Germany - LEUTZ family in Mosbach, 18thC and before...
« on: Sunday 31 March 19 15:26 BST (UK)  »
I was there, at the LMA, looking into Mental asylums when I was doing my AdvDip in Local history at Oxford (great online course btw)... so used the opportunity. It basically just confirmed what we already knew,  just a few years in between.

Europe / Re: Germany - LEUTZ family in Mosbach, 18thC and before...
« on: Sunday 31 March 19 13:55 BST (UK)  »
One thing I did learn when I went to the London metropolitan archive on another assignment was godfrey had the hoop and adze on one side and a house on the other side a few doors up.  I think that was on an insurance record there. Don't have my notes to hand. From memory though not sure how long he was there. I'll try and look it out when home.

Europe / Re: Germany - LEUTZ family in Mosbach, 18thC and before...
« on: Sunday 31 March 19 13:30 BST (UK)  »
Keith, I'm going via Mosbach this week and hope to spend a day at the records office in town. Hopefully be able to find a bit more. Johannes Valentin Leutz is my favoured record.  I note different spellings but I think  J V leutz sounds promising. His father was a Valentin/ Valentine/ Valentinus as well.

Lancashire / Re: Confused
« on: Monday 19 March 18 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, got to love the inconsistencies... his father was Jersey born and bred but headed over to the mainland to teach... Leamington College, Batley Grammar, and then Stafford. FJ Vincent had two uncles who were also vicars, one Head at Norwich School, and his aunt the Head at Casterton. Lots of Church, hence why I think he went to Salt Lake and Utah.

Lancashire / Confused
« on: Monday 19 March 18 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
I'm coming back to these people to try and see whether I can solve it...
Frederick Janvrin Vincent (b.1851 Leamington) is my GGGreat Uncle and he married Emily Robinson Williams 29 Jan 1872 in Everton, St George.
Frederick Janvrin Vincent then marries again in Trinity Church, Christchurch, New Zealand to Laura Tregeagle, in January 1875.
Emily Robinson Williams' father is Lewis Williams, she was born sometime between 1847 and 1851, there are conflicting records... but not entirely sure of dob, the most logical is the record of baptism in Caernarvon 25 Oct 1848.
The original marriage is 100% because it lists my GGG Grandfather Frederick Augustus Vincent, clerk in orders as well. Having Janvrin (Jersey name) Vincent also narrows things down.
Frederick Janvrin does end up over in the USA, Salt Lake then in the end in San Fran. They were a religious lot so I think the New Zealand trip was probably missionary work.
The problem I have is... what happens to Emily Robinson Williams... there is a widow, Emily Vincent marries again in 1875 in Everton again... to a Gowan
No divorce record I can find, perhaps someone can help on that. I don't have the marriage cert for NZ so I don't know what marital status it was for FJ Vincent on the 1875 marriage.
Just a bit strange.

The Common Room / Re: CONFUSED
« on: Sunday 27 August 17 14:13 BST (UK)  »
Found him on Ancestry

The Common Room / Re: CONFUSED
« on: Sunday 27 August 17 14:08 BST (UK)  »
I'm having a look through electoral on FindMyPast and cannot find this Charles White, what search terms did you use?

The Common Room / Re: CONFUSED
« on: Sunday 27 August 17 13:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Cathy. However.... a Charles C B White was the Brother in law of Herbert... C C B White was in Wandsworth in 1894, not too far away... could be on to something

The Common Room / CONFUSED
« on: Sunday 27 August 17 11:35 BST (UK)  »
This builds on an old thread, but I thought after MANY years of trying to solve this I was finally there. Here is one of the old threads with a lot of detail.

So Herbert Janvrin Vincent and Agnes maiden name Friedberg have proven to be really difficult to track down, or more specifically their deaths. Their children survive but there are no stories in the family about what happened to them. They are my GG Grandparents so not exactly that long ago.
A quick summary of the key facts:
Herbert Janvrin Vincent born 1855, listed as deceased on his son's marriage in 1903, seems to go off record in the 1880s, along with his wife, the boys safely recorded in 1891 in Jersey with grandparents but no parents.
I finally thought I had a record, initially I thought two deaths at sea but I think they are referring to the same person.
There is a death 19 May 1900 but logged in BT334 August 1900. I actually went to see it at the National Archives because the address was fuzzy, they agreed and let me see the original and the address is 109 Louisville Road Balham. They had previously lived near Croydon so it is not that far to Balham. However, this is what is perplexing. I looked up 109 Louisville Road on Land Registry and the freehold is listed as 01.02.1901, does that mean it was built then? Old maps, i.e. 1890s OS have Louisville marked out as a road but with no houses on it. So was their address 109 Louisville? I had hoped I may have seen a name listed on the Land registry but there wasn't. Any ideas how to get more info on that? when it was built etc. Who first owned it?
The info listed on the BT334 Deaths at Sea on Find My Past does fit... JH is corrected H J. He was born in Yorkshire in 1855 not 1856, but one year out isn't that bad. And the extended family were known to travel, often doing the Lord's work... loads of Reverencs in the family at that time.
If you want to look into it, check out the other old threads

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