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Hi Pauline,

Agree that by todays standards she was very young when she married.

Mary Ann reports she was 18 on her marriage record in 1903, but I believe she was 17 (her birth was registered q4 of 1886) and definitely expecting Ivy. Both Mary and Ivy were Manchester born.

Mary Ann's parents both married when they were 17 and I have found a couple of her siblings who could be considered young too...

I have the baptism record for Ivy (her Parents are both named) and will be sending for her birth certificate (just to be sure!).

The strange thing is that Mary Ann and Harry weren't living together from 1911, (maybe before then ) and the 1911 census has another child (Harold) born abt 1908 - I have done a little digging around on him and have found a baptism record for a Harold born 26 Dec 1907, baptised 14 Feb 1908 - the only parent on the Baptism record is Mary Jones...

There is still work to be done here to prove I've found the wife and Child/Children of Harry Jones, but there is something that makes me feel I have...only time will tell.

At the risk of boring everyone  To explain my thought process; Growing up my Grandmother (deceased) spoke a lot about her childhood and family. Harry Jones was her uncle and it's only in recent years  that I realise she didn't talk much about him, other than to say he was a 'book-maker' (I have his papers and stuff to back this up...) A few years back I was talking with my Mum (who too has now passed away) and she couldn't recall anything more about him, though, she said she vaguely remembered mention of him having a 'Lady-friend' (how civilised  ), but none of the details...

It was when I received his death certificate, that this story came to mind... The imagination can go into over-drive, but I'd love to get a clearer/truer picture - and some facts would be great!

Thanks for making contact and I will update this post as and when there is more to report.
Onwards and Upwards!

Lisa

Hi,

My ancestor Harry Jones (b1881) has been a challenge for some years now, but, I think, I may have finally smashed through a very thick brick wall and would like, if I may,  to see what you all think.

Harry's whereabouts were always known to me (up to 1929; through census' and other documents) and had always believed he remained single throughout his life. To close the record on him, a couple of years ago I ordered his death cert and was surprised to see that his death had been reported by his daughter I.I. Jones ( - really helpful!).

On the 1911 census he was a greengrocer (own a/c) at home with his Mother and some of his siblings. A '-' (dash) had been entered against the marital status column for him and his siblings, so (I thought) I knew that any marriage took place after the 1911 census.

With him having a very common name it proved impossible to work out whom he married (if indeed he did marry).

I was delighted when the 1939 register came on-line, he was first on-the-hit-list! I found Harry, living exactly where I expected but! - he was alone. His status is married, but no wife or child. Aaargh. I then remembered there was an address on his death cert for his daughter and using ref: 4504h 010 on the 1939 register, can see that the address was occupied by Ivy ? Jones  born 1903- bingo!   

So, I have my tree on A****try and having put her name and date of birth, went off to search, I have found a 1911 census (RG14_23868_0271_03) with Ivy Jones age 9, Mother; Mary Jones (24) and brother Harold (3) (yep, another child!) Mary reports that she has been married for 8 years, though no husband present.

Having had a look again at the 1939 register, using the same ref. above  I can see there is a Mary M Jones on the same street (there are also other Jones, not (yet) familiar to me...)

I then searched for a marriage for Henry Jones to Mary M Jones and this is where I need your thoughts...

I have found a marriage for Harry Jones to Mary Ann Stonehouse on 06 July 1903, St Philips, Hulme (M320/4/2/4) - this Harry is a Fruit Presser (I think?) his address isn't known to me, but I wouldn't know what he was doing between census'... His father is written as Harry (it was in fact Henry), but his father's occupation and death is correct.

Do you think I have found my Harry Jones or am I clutching at straws?...

Apologies that this has gone on a bit! - I'd just love to close this one off.

Many many thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have.

Lisa

Can someone help me please i've found my great nan and in green pen there is another surename above her and also a what I'm assuming a reference number at the side what does this mean?

Could it possibly be her married name? My grandmother has the same and in her case it is her married name; I've assumed the reference numbers link to the marriage record, but I may be wrong; I haven't looked into the reference numbers as I have her marriage cert... My explanation could of course be totally wrong...

The published expiry period for credits is 90 days. When I purchased mine a little while ago, I was advised that they would expire end of March 2016 - which is when my annual subscription expires.
Perhaps if you don't have an annual subscription, they expire in 90 days; and if you have an annual subscription they expire when your subscription [annual] expires...

Hi Sandra,

Interesting about Rhode Island. There is another Thomas J Banahan born in Ireland on 25 Apr 1866, he settles in Rhode Island... Thomas J Banahan arrived in America 06 May 1884 and was naturalized on 30 Jun 1902.

I had thought they were two different people?   

Lisa