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Great work Carol!

Would you (anyone)  be able to tidy/lighten this one up for me please?...
Many thanks in advance...

Lisa

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The Bucks Herald
« on: Saturday 04 June 16 23:27 BST (UK)  »
You're more than welcome Carol.

The following also appeared in the Bucks Press 05 Apr 1884;

Deaths
COLEMAN - At Wingrave, on 31st ult., Annie wife of Mr Alfred Coleman, aged 25 years.

Can't see anything else relating to Annie...

Lisa

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The Bucks Herald
« on: Saturday 04 June 16 23:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi mentmore,

INQUEST - An inquest was held on Tuesday last, at the Bell Inn, Wingrave, before Mr g Fell, Coroner, touching the death of Annie Coleman, aged twenty five years, wife of Alfred Coleman, Painter, of Wingrave. From the medical evidence of Mr W. Eagles, M.R.C.S., of Aylesbury, it appeared that the deceased died from internal hemorrhage. A verdict was returned accordingly.

Lisa



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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 13:48 BST (UK)  »
Another attempt

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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 13:37 BST (UK)  »
For whatever reason, it is not allowing me to attach a 240kb file attachment... keep getting...
"Internal Error - Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the one you tried to upload. Please rename the file and try again" Have renamed, resized...nothing seems to work...

It looks like Corteon Co. Longford???


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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 13:27 BST (UK)  »
I don't think there is enough evidence yet re the censuses pre 1881.

Do the marriage witnesses give any clues - family members?

Michael, the brother, is born abt 1860/2 in 1901 and 1911 which is different to the one in pre 1881.
He married Winifred Gegan according to Lancs BMD.

It would be worth trying to establish that birthplace from 1911.

Regards
Heywood

Here is the birthplace from the 1911 census....???
Thank you!
Lisa


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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 13:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Heywood

Witnesses on the marriage cert for Patrick & Mary Ann Cox were John Riley and Ellen Cox. Have had no  joy with the Riley name... Ellen Cox could be Mary Ann's sister or mother (or some other relative...) Ellen Cox (Mary Ann's sister) married a Donnelly...

The Gegan/Geagan name (Michael's 2nd wife) I remember my grandmother talking about... known as 'Old Mother Gegan' she apparently terrified my grandmother (b1910)who as a small child used to hide under the table when she visited and couldn't be coaxed out... she smoked a clay pipe and had a fearsome face/character...my grandmother held that view well into her nineties... Now, whether Michaels 2nd wife was 'this Gegan', who knows... but seems a bit co-incidental... ;)

As I rack my brains, I cannot ever remember my grandmother talking about her grandfather Patrick Farrell when she was recalling childhood memories and stories, so it could be he was deceased by the time she was born or shortly after... (she knew of his existence and that his wife died young, but I don't recall anything else...)

I can see a death record for a Patrick Farrell b1856 who died 1909 in Manchester...but it could be a long shot and not uncover any useful information... :-\

Lisa





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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 11:58 BST (UK)  »
This might help trace some of the family in Lancashire-
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Maybe aghadowey, I'll re-visit this...haven't looked for years. Thank you, always forget about this one...
Lisa

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Ireland / Re: Patrick Farrell born abt 1858 Manchester or Ireland ?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 16 11:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sinann,

Thanks for coming back to me...and apologies for the dealying in responding...

The only real facts I have are that Patrick Farrell was born abt 1858 he married Mary Ann Cox in 1878 in Manchester (Mary Ann died in 1886) - his father's name on his married record was Michael Farrell deceased; a joiner.

The census information I have pre 1881 is an assumption - I am not certain I've even got the right family... on the 1861 census he [Patrick] has 4 siblings Caroline b1848, John b1853, Michael b1855 and Mary b1860 - the census reports their births as Hulme, Manchester..

Patrick's brother Michael b1855 married an Ann at some point before 1891, on the 1891 census they both have their PoB as Ireland

On the 1901 & 1911 census Michael is married to Winifred with a daughter Angela - on the 1901 census Angela listed as his daughter, on the 1911 she is Angela Geagon step daughter - On the 1911 census Michael is born in County Longford (can't read the town) Winifred is born Co. Galway and Angela is born in Hulme...

So, not very much at all to go with at all...

It's made all the more challenging as my Grandmother (Patrick's grand daughter) always believed her Mother had come across from Kilkenny aged 15 (which I've obviously since found to be untrue...) and an unfulfilled wish of my grandmothers was to visit Kilkenny before she died and raise a glass to her Farrell ancestors...  :-\ ;D

I have long since thought that this leg of my tree may have to remain a solid brick wall... There is obviously some story here...but maybe it's not meant for me to unravel it... Aaaaargh!  ;D

Lisa






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