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United States of America / Re: Who do I ask
« on: Yesterday at 10:23 »
Hi Erato, Thomas was born in Newyork, New York, which I think could be either Kings or Manhaten.

I don't have a month or day.   

Sorry No I didn't know they had them between the decades as in 1861 ect.

I will see if I get anything then let you know. 


United States of America / Re: Who do I ask
« on: Yesterday at 08:18 »
HI Erato,

Thank you for that  info.  So I have to rely on the Census records from Scotland for any Information. 

I wonder if and when he married   another search but might prove interesting.

Thank you again.

United States of America / Re: Who do I ask
« on: Yesterday at 07:31 »
HI Polarbear and everyone else who has posted here, Thank you all....

So, unfortunately, it looks seriously like that this couple didn't get any sort of certificate.    OK.

So - What about the child born while they were there -shouldn't he have had his birth registered?

Oddly I cannot find that either.   He is Thomas Hetherington born in 1866 USA.

Parents: Thomas Hetherington  and Janet - should be Beveridge but possibly Barrage  [possibly a pronunciation miss recording as  she is on the ships manifest as Barrage.


The Common Room / Re: Occasional Copy
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 13:51 BST (UK)  »
HI Andrew Tarr,

People did make life messy didn't they?  And now this post had made you review your family. 
Well you may just have to get that certificate....   and I'm about to do similar.

Hope we get some clarity as a result.

United States of America / Re: Who do I ask
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 13:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi shellyesq.

thanks again for the reply.   

these people came over as Immigrants... ???  I don't think that they were truly immigrants as they very soo0 returned to Scotland.

The time period is between 1864 and 1866. Because that is when they both left from Liverpool and the lady had their second child back in Scotland 1867.I have a copy of that child's birth via Scotland's People. 

Even though  they may not have married what's the position of the little boy they had there, born in 1866.

They were Church of Scotland mostly Presbyterian otherwise.

I'll give Find My Past another try as well.

Thank you i appreciate you help.

United States of America / Re: Who do I ask
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 13:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Erato and Amondg, Shellyesq.

Erato that link is to an absolutely fantastic site. yes a work-in-progress. Unfortunately I cannot find the couple on there. But I can visit again as more is added.

Unfortunately no luck.
The aren't on the Italien one either but that would be a log shot anyway  they're from Scotland.

Thanks everyone, your help is appreciated.  I shall try to contact the New York archives. Being immigrants  ("??") they should have complied with State Laws.

Cheers Essnell

The Common Room / Re: Incoming passengers to UK
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 12:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Aghadowey,
Thank you for the ideas I will try that avenue too.

United States of America / Who do I ask
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 02:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi  Everyone,
I have a couple for whom I would like to find a marriage record in Newyork, New York.

ALL the search facilities are not finding one yet other documents record this information.   So they both left  UK on separate ships in the same year.  Then apparently married and had a child there then returned to the UK where they had more children.

I have only found the passenger lists for both but nothing to verify this marriage.  Even that was difficult.
Thinking I need to contact USA archives.  How.  Does anyone know. 

Any ideas would be appreciated.


The Common Room / Re: Incoming passengers to UK
« on: Tuesday 17 May 22 02:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bookbox and KGarrard,

Thank you both for the replies.  So  the only clues to when people returned is the usual Census and possible birth of children, dates and where registered.  Some of which I have.

More work. 
Cheers Essnell. 

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