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Hi Jane
It is the Census of Mossend and is under the names of John Cochrane, his wife Helen/Ellen and several children including and William Douglas aged about 18. Some of the Cochrane children were born to Helen McBride and others to Douglas...(Helen/Ellen interchanegeable too) She was Williams elder sister.
I agree, my evidence is convincing but I really don't think and of those people who have those trees have his death or marriage cert. One of his descendants who has NZ connections  agrees with me, he was the original researcher.  Trouble is his wife is very ill.  I have a copy of the marriage cert here. The date they give on Ancestry for the birth of William son of John and Jane is actually for their son John Jnr and I have a copy of that too. I guess I could send an email to them all (using copy and paste). I mean all the other info on their tree is OK just those parents and his date of birth is wrong....
Jane, thanks so much for your help and advice, its really kind of you and I am VERY grateful

Marilyn

Hello again Jane and many thanks for all the digging you have been doing. It is much appreciated.
That was me who put that message on Curious Fox lol quite a few years ago!
Yes quite a few discrepancies in the Census...now in 1911 it says Dundee ...strange.
Anyway I just thought the actual burial records might have a date of birth rather than the gravestone.
Usually they do.  I have tried to find baptisms for other Williams but to no avail and I know a few others have tried and because he seems to fit the criteria they have added it to their tree with no factual evidence. There were lots of William McBrides but of course he was Bride and his father was William not John. He possibly Anglicised his name for employment purposes... he may have been Irish. A guy who was researching him said the family story was that his mother was an Irish Gypsy and that was not Jane Kirk!
Also there was a Crosshill in Kirkudbrightshire from what I can gather so he may have been born there. I feel I have to do the proving since it is me saying he is not the William in our family...it is
most frustrating to see people put information on Ancestry that is incorrect even though they mean well.
Thank you again Jane ..if you ever need to help someone looking for NZ info please don't hesitate to ask me.
regards and best wishes
Marilyn

Hi Jane

Thank you so much, I really appreciate any help at all.. I will wait and see if you find anything first before getting his cert.

Grateful thanks
Marilyn

Hi George..tried emailing you..have you changed your email address   to let you know I have also found William McEwen in Pennsylvania, he had a lot of children including one called Matilda, one Robert one John,   I am in contact with a guy who is descended from his wife Mary Chapmans sister, I am on Ancestry now thanks to generous hubby and a birthday.
We are trying to locate his obituary over there which should give heaps of info.
Hope you still have my email address....
Marilyn

Hi Ev thank you for your reply also. Well a friend went on Scotlands People for me just this one and found that yes William was the son of James and Mary Ann. At long last !! Thank you both for your replies..I may need more help sometime with Cochranes
Marilyn