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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Garys and Gareys in Stockbridge 1600s and 1700s
« on: Wednesday 26 November 14 08:55 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if someone can advise me. I am descended from Richard Gary/Garey (1755-1801) in Stockbridge, Hants, who married Hannah Elliot (1755-1833) in 1770. Richard's parents were Edward and Elizabeth (I think they are Edward  - born 1718 - and Elizabeth Parker - born 1730- , married Stockbridge 26.10.1710).
I have found 2 trees online, apparently by the same person, but slightly different. They give Edward's parents as John (baptised 26.12.1705) married Mary ?Plowman, born 1700. John's father was also John (1680-) and his father was Richard, born 1660 or 1665, who married Elinor (born 1660). Richard's father was also Richard born 1630 or 40, who married Jane born 1635 or 50 in Stockbridge.
There are slight differences in date between the two trees I found, but the main problem is the two Johns. In one tree there is only one John (baptised 1705) but both Johns are given with the same source that "he" was a master carpenter with an apprentice in 1718. Unlikely if he only 13 years old. So the other (father) John (1680) seems likely. The son is also cited as a "taylor".

I like the idea of the master carpenter, as many of my family, who later migrated to Shoreditch and Stroud, were wood workers and walking stick makers, right up to my grandfather.

I am going round in circles, so I thought I would ask the experts if I can accept the observations I quote. What I am trying to do is to find out if the links above are likely, so that I can get myself back to 1630 from a century later.
Thanks if you can advise. Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Garey family: walking stick makers in London and Stroud
« on: Tuesday 17 December 13 06:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Victor. There are indeed a few unknown "cousins" in that list, notably in the line of Richard Thomas, my gg grandfather, and his wife Augusta Unger. It will help fill in the tree! But it does not help my trying to link with the other family of stick makers (that from William who remained in the East End).
Best wishes, Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Garey family: walking stick makers in London and Stroud
« on: Monday 16 December 13 08:38 GMT (UK)  »
I am descended from Edward Garey (1777-1851), born in Stockbridge, Hants (sometimes spelled Geary or Gary). He moved to London and was a carpenter in the Shoreditch area. His son Henry William (born Bishopsgate1813) was a whip maker, and his son, also Henry William (1837-1901), a stick carver who moved to one of the new walking stick factories in the Stroud area from about 1870 to 1890. Brother Walter Eastmead Garey (1843-1867) was an ivory turner in London, and another brother, Richard Thomas, a stick carver who also went to the Stroud factory around 1870 and stayed there. He was my gg grandfather.
Another family of perhaps related Gareys descended from stick dresser William (born 1810), through son William Alfred (Shoreditch1837-1917), also a stick dresser, to his son (another William Alfred, 1860-1887), a walking stick maker again in Shoreditch, and brother Walter (1870-1938) a walking stick filer.
So it seems that a good basis of carpentry skills could be turned to more delicate objects such as whips, ivory, and dressed walking sticks. Richard Thomas's son Marcus George, my grandfather, was also a wood pattern maker at the Baker Perkins factory in Peterborough. So the line continued.
What I would like to know is whether these two families of stick makers are related. Can anyone help? Thanks
Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Wednesday 04 April 12 09:39 BST (UK)  »
Another link in the puzzle. Thanks Michiel. I did not have it on record when or where Sarah Elizabeth died. I assumed she was with her husband, maybe in Paris, but when he died in 1870 I do not know where she went. Presumably back to England, according to what you have just found, perhaps to Southsea, Hampshire. It is interesting that the furthest back I can trace my own branch of the Gareys is to a family of carpenters in Hampshire in the mid-18th century. But I stll cannot find the link (if any) between the Edward Bryant branch and my own. Who were the grandparents of EB Garey whose son George was EB's father?

Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Sunday 25 March 12 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Fascinating! Many thanks.
Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Friday 02 March 12 11:40 GMT (UK)  »
Yes indeed. There's money in gas! Interesting that I received an email yesterday from the gt grandson of George Garey and Susannah Annesley. I had been in touch with him some years ago. Much of what I have on that branch came from him.
Best wishes
Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Sunday 12 February 12 09:16 GMT (UK)  »
Michiel:
Just saw this on Wikipedia:
Diana and her companions by Vermeer:
Neville Davison Goldsmid of The Hague owned the painting from 1866-1875, before it passed into the hands of his widow, Eliza Garey of The Hague and Paris. She sold it with other works at the Goldsmid sale on May 4, 1876, when Victor de Stuers bought it for the collection of the Koninklijk Kabinet van Schilderijen Mauritshuis, the Hague.[17]
Maybe you can find it and get it back for me!

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Saturday 11 February 12 17:03 GMT (UK)  »
Very interesting Michiel. I wonder why Sarah Elizabeth used the name Gardner. Maybe she changed from her father's name after his trial, but that was 2 years after her marriage. Or it could be that Gardner is very close to Garey in the registers and it was wrongly transcribed.
I still cannot find details of Edward Richard Garey. If he was the nephew of George Washington G, I assume he was the son of Napoleon Garey, but I only have him with 2 daughters. Why is he recorded as a nephew, when his father (?) only died in 1914? Mysterious.
Earlier in this thread (reply 6, 1 December 2010) ShaunJ note that Napoleon was a gas engineer in Nimes!
I have no direct information on Paris sites, as you asked, but I shall look. The LDS might help.
I have no pictures of these people.
I did check on the home of Edward Bryant G, and he lived at Powis Place, London W1, which today runs between the two famous hospitals of Queen Square (neurology) and Great Ormond Steet (children). Nice area. Better than Tasmania, or at least where he lived in Tasmania.
Best wishes
Laurence

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London and Middlesex / Re: Gareys in London from 1700
« on: Wednesday 08 February 12 10:57 GMT (UK)  »
Michiel
I just found a Sarah Ogle who married Martin Garey in London in 1824. You mentioned that Henry Goldsmit's wife was Sarah Ward Ogle. Any connection?

And Letitia Garey married Richard Ward in 1845 in London!

Laurence

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