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Monmouthshire / deciphering census images
« on: Friday 02 February 07 13:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

can anyone help me decipher the missing words from the following 2 census'?

Dwelling     Dre Evans
    Census Place    Rhymney Ironworks, Bedwellty XXX coed
    Public Records Office Reference: HO 107
    Piece / Folio     2448
    Page Number     Page 5
    Schedule    Sched 17
    Nathaniel Davies, head, mar, 60, master haulier, Breconshire
    Ann Davies, wife, mar, 59, Brecon
    William Davies,    son, 22, Glamorganshire
    Anne Davies, grndau, 4, Carmarthenshire

and

    Dwelling     Dre Evans
    Census Place    Bedwellty XXX lawycoed Rhymney XXX works [I presume "Iron"]
    Public Records Office Reference: HO107 
    Piece / Folio     2448/ 485
    Page Number     6
    Schedule    Sched 21
    David N Davies,    head, mar, 35, Haulier, Brecon
    Mary N. Davies,    wife, mar, 28, Carmarthenshire

I would post the snippets, but only have them as hard copy at the mo.....

Ta

D

20
Census Lookup and Resource Requests / NBI lookup for Whinyates
« on: Friday 26 January 07 11:00 GMT (UK)  »
Sarah Elizabeth Whinyates, nee Crompton, died on 28th April 1828, less than a year after she had married.

Her husband, General Sir Edward Charles Whinyates died on 25.12.1865 in Cheltenham.

However, he is not buried there, although all his brothers are.

Could somebody possibly look them up in the NBI, see if they are entered? I've a feeling that they could possibly be either in Yorkshire or Derbyshire, as this is where Sarah's family comes from.

Ta

D

21
Europe / Re: Sharing Useful Tips: GERMANY and E. Europe
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 09:00 GMT (UK)  »

I am looking (with not much success) for the name ASSERT. I have just seen the double s written as a letter like a B. Sorry don't know the correct name. So I was wondering just what it might have been changed to.

you mean the "ß"? its called "eszet", (literally "s, z") because that is how it is sometimes written. Also known as "scharfes S" - sharp S, for some reason.

As for the name Asset, I would have thought it easy enough to pronounce as it is, whithout it having to be anglicized. Where about did they originate?

D

22
Caernarvonshire / Re: Putting Names with Ap or Verch into tree
« on: Tuesday 23 January 07 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
to be absolutely correct, the "ap Robert John" or "Ferch/verch Huw Dafydd" part is not strictly speaking the surname. Surnames did not exist then, and the "ap" part should also have been carried on to the seventh generation!

However, in the absence of a family tree programme that sees to this matter properly, I have taken the whole "ap" or "ferch" part as the surname.

One of mine, Jane, was born illegitimately to Anne Morris, but the father was known, and his name was John Williams, so Jane got the name "Jane Morris verch John Williams". I've entered the Jane Morris as the first names and "Verch John Williams" as the surname.

Hope this helps.

D

23
Wales / Re: Welsh Not,
« on: Tuesday 23 January 07 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
Its something I've often thought about.

on my fathers side, my ancestors, according to the census', could only speak Welsh.

4 generations later, of the 25 cousins I still keep in touch with, my brother and I are the only ones who can speak Welsh.

On another note, my parents were born in the early 1940s. Their parents (my grandparents), naturally wanted to give their children Welsh names. The registrar wouldn't allow it - so they were all given English names. Thankfully things had changed again by the time I was born.

D

24
The Lighter Side / Re: Early divorce in Wales
« on: Monday 08 January 07 14:50 GMT (UK)  »
This was all laid down by law by King Hywel Dda (Hywel the Great) in the 9th century.

It also gives reasons for a wife to be able to divorce her husband.

Quote
If her husband is leprous or of stinking breath or cannot copulate with his wife: if because of one of these things she leaves her husband, she is entitled to get the whole of what is hers.

Imagine the field day the Sun would have with that today!

25
Completed Census Requests / Re: Crockfords - George G Harvey
« on: Monday 11 December 06 08:13 GMT (UK)  »
thanks for that Andrea, much obliged.

Can't say for sure that the book will be top of my Christmas list.....

D

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Completed Census Requests / Crockfords - George G Harvey
« on: Friday 08 December 06 10:42 GMT (UK)  »
If anyone has access to Crockfords Clerical Directory, could they please, please look up the entry for:
Rev George Gayton Harvey.

Born 1802 in Yarmouth, Norfolk, married Sarah Frances Sheppard, died 1875 in Hampstead. He was vicar of Hailsham.

Ta

D

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Caernarvonshire / Re: CAERNARVONSHIRE BMD
« on: Thursday 07 December 06 15:14 GMT (UK)  »
D - Clwyd FHS were transcribing them. That's how I got involved. All those Williams  :o

Tell me about it. One of my maternal grandparents was a Williams from Llanllfyni, the other a Williams from Holyhead.... :P

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