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Perthshire / Re: Location in Monzievaird & Strowan
« on: Wednesday 24 January 24 21:20 GMT (UK)  »
Not very far. This is it here on the same map as before. It's east south east of Quoig.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=56.37932&lon=-3.88418&layers=257&b=1

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Perthshire / Re: Location in Monzievaird & Strowan
« on: Wednesday 24 January 24 20:53 GMT (UK)  »
It's Quoig.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=56.38268&lon=-3.91258&layers=257&b=1

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ronald Smith Fornication Penalty 1824 Skye of Curr Scotland
« on: Wednesday 24 January 24 20:12 GMT (UK)  »
Have you looked at this baptism in Cromdale, Morayshire?

Alexander Smith or McKinzie 1-2-1824, parents Ronald Smith and Isabel McKinzie

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Janet Cunninghame
« on: Monday 22 January 24 16:20 GMT (UK)  »
Do the witnesses to the baptisms of Hugh and any brothers or sisters include any Cunninghames?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help needed deciphering 1610 Scottish birth record
« on: Sunday 21 January 24 20:48 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at the published Canongate burgess roll, the only Bartholemew is John Barthilmo, dyer, made burgess 21-7-1632.

Here are the Drysdale burgesses in the Canongate:

https://www.electricscotland.com/history/records/scottishrecordso55scotuoft.pdf

Here are the Bartholemew burgesses in Edinburgh:

https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso46scotuoft/scottishrecordso46scotuoft/page/n57/mode/2up

And the Drysdale burgesses in Edinburgh:

https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso46scotuoft/scottishrecordso46scotuoft/page/n169/mode/2up

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help needed deciphering 1610 Scottish birth record
« on: Sunday 21 January 24 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
1.

The quhilk day compeirit Rt Drysdaill and confest
fornication wt ester sword wtout promeis of mariage
boiyt being pnt

The which day compeared Robert Drysdale and confessed
fornication with Esther Sword without promise of marriage
both being present.

2.

Ordans to ressave ester sword fornicatrix wt Rt
Drysdaill for ye first day

[The Session] ordains to receive Esther Sword fornicatrix with Robert
Drysdale for the first day.

3.

Ordans to ressave ester sword fornicatrix wt rot
Drysdaill for the last day

[The Session] ordains to receive Esther Sword fornicatrix with Robert
Drysdale for the last day.

4.

Ordans to ressave rot Drysdaill fornicator wt
ester sword for the last day

[The Session] ordains to receive Robert Drysdale fornicator with
Esther Sword for the last day.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help needed deciphering 1610 Scottish birth record
« on: Sunday 21 January 24 12:52 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: arthurk on Sunday 21 January 24 10:55 GMT (UK)
I thought it was more likely "a daughter named". All of the entries seem to have either ADN or ASN (for a son), and while I've struggled to make everything out, I didn't see 'fornicator' against any of the others.

You are quite right. A daughter named.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help needed deciphering 1610 Scottish birth record
« on: Sunday 21 January 24 00:34 GMT (UK)  »
The date is:

Thursday ye 2 august 1610

The second baptism that day, starting on line 8, is:

R[ober]t Drysdaill fornicator w(i)t(h) easter sword A
D N Jonet w[itnesse]s willia[m] [       ] & Jon Drysdaill

I'm not entirely certain about the surname of the first witness. ADN is an abbreviation of "a daughter natural." The minutes of St  Cuthbert kirk session are available for the period, so doubtless there will be a mention of the fornicators there. Easter will be Esther and Sword is a surname found in Edinburgh at the time.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Andersons in Monquitter
« on: Sunday 21 January 24 00:06 GMT (UK)  »
James Anderson was born in Aberdeen according to the censuses.

In 1841 he is a journeyman blacksmith working for John Ogston at Mill of Laithers, Turriff.

In 1851 he is a blacksmith farming 5 acres at Castle of Auchry, Monquhitter.

In 1861 he is a blacksmith at Haremoss, Monquhitter.

In 1871 he is a blacksmith and crofter of 8 acres at Greeness, Monquhitter.

In 1881 he a blacksmith at Greeness, Monquhitter.

The Aberdeen Journal, Wednesday 27th May 1868:

MONQUHITTER - CHILD BURNED. - On Thursday last, a
girl about three years old, Jane, daughter of James Ander-
son, blacksmith, Hill of Greeness, while left alone in the
house by her mother for a short time, went too near the
fire, and her clothes became ignited. She ran screaming out
of the house, and the gale of wind blowing at the time
served to hasten her destruction. Her mother heard her
cries, and came to her assistance immediately, but before
the flames were put out the poor child was fearfully burnt.
She died the following day.

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