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Canada / Re: James Venemore and Harriet Pike/Venemore
« on: Thursday 30 September 21 14:36 BST (UK)  »
Where it says to be deported - maybe a red-herring -  is there a date 8  14  42 could be 14/8/1942 or just a reference number  ?


This appears to be a reference number rather than a date.  The date would have been 1907.

Eileen - thank you.  I have the information about her children.


Canada / Re: James Venemore and Harriet Pike/Venemore
« on: Thursday 30 September 21 14:28 BST (UK)  »
There is a Poor Law Union Record dated 1912 showing Harriet, aged 30, widow of James, a baker, along with son Percy, aged 3 in the Medway, Kent records, admitted from Gillingham parish.  Record available on Ancestry.

Thank you Eileen - I have that record but I can't find out anything about James.  Harriet re-married in 1913.


Canada / James Venemore and Harriet Pike/Venemore
« on: Thursday 30 September 21 14:10 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help with this please?

Harriet Pike born 1882 in Gillingham married James Venemore on 23rd September 1906 at Gillingham.  I cannot find a birth record in England for James but the marriage record says his father, George was a Baker, as was James.

In 1907 Harriet and James travelled on the Tunisian to Montreal, Canada - their destination is Quebec.  There is a note next to their names 'To Be Deported'.  What would this mean?  Does it mean James was born in Canada or in the UK?

James was born c1880 and, presumably, died between 1909 (they had a son in 1909) and 1911.  There is a James Croxford Venemore with father George in Leighton Buzzard that fits with the birth and death dates but this appears to be a red herring.  James Croxford Venemore married Minnie Frost in 1902 and it appears that Minnie died in 1904 but Harriet's James is shown as a batchelor on the marriage record in 1906.

Harriet returned to the UK in 1910 with her two children but James was not with them and I have found no other record of him returning.  In the 1911 census Harriet is shown as a widow.

If anyone could help with James's birth and/or death records it would help a lot and I would be very grateful.


The Lighter Side / Re: The Commandments of Genealogy
« on: Monday 20 September 21 20:26 BST (UK)  »
Thou shalt live in a very small village and be named John Smith but there shalt be at least two other John Smith's in this small village and their children and wives shalt share the same names as your own children and wife.  Wherever possible the other two John Smith's must have been born in the same year as yourself and the children and wife must also share the same birth years.

Thou shalt disappear at the time of the 1861 census along with all other male members of your family (even though the other male members of the family are married and living elsewhere) but all re-appear for the 1871 census.

Thou shalt take the surname of your step-father for ONE CENSUS ONLY but revert to your original surname in all other documents.  This must be the first census after moving away from your family home.

Thou shalt report in the 1841 census that you were born in 'Kent' but then disappear with no trace before the 1851 census.


The Stay Safe Board / Re: Anti-vaxxers' arguments
« on: Friday 13 August 21 15:37 BST (UK)  »
Could someone please explain to me how some anti-vaxxers can claim that ' all vaccinated people will be dead in three years'.

How can they possibly accept this when three years ago nobody had even heard of Covid let alone a vaccine for it.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Friday 13 August 21 14:45 BST (UK)  »
I haven't got back that far with my Hammond line so, sorry, can't say on that one.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Thursday 12 August 21 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Are your Hammonds any relation to the Hammonds in Albury, Herts one of the daughters married a Thomas Houghton and settled in Little Hallingbury- they were ag labs and farmers x

There is a good chance they were the same family.  Which daughter and what year would this be?  Some of my Hammonds ended up with Albury and the surrounding areas.


Apparently the deaths have increased due to the increase in infection rates a couple of weeks ago.  It is now expected that the death rates will start to fall again.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Thursday 01 July 21 08:30 BST (UK)  »
1841 Census was in June so itís extremely feasible that as Agricultural Labours that they could be moving around for seasonal work.


Yes, agreed but you would still expect to find at least one of the four.

Was anything happening historically c1841?  I ask because I have a very similar situation in Sussex, two brothers and their brother in law are also all missing from home, wives and children are all enumerated as expected.  Iím inclined to think theyíre drunk under the table at the nearby beer house  ;D

That's funny - I thought the same thing with the Hammonds.  ;D ;D ;D


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