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Australia / Re: McNAMEE Christopher John - was he a convict???
« on: Friday 03 January 14 02:22 GMT (UK)  »
To Everyone,

Isn't this just so frustrating!!!!   ???   :-\

I thank you all very sincerely for all your efforts.

To answer a few of the questions that have come up:
    1.  I don't have any idea of Christopher's occupation.  According to the inquest information at the time of his death he didn't leave any assets.     :-\
    2.  Re the Kingswood Reading Rooms  -  I don't live anywhere near there (Qld actually)   :(
    3.  I don't have any of the BDM certificates for Christopher or his wife Mary     :(
    4.  I did put a post on the Ireland Board to see if anybody could track down a marriage for me, but nothing has turned up yet.     :(
 
There is so much conflicting information and nothing seems to tie in together nicely.  What  we do know for sure though is that Christopher and Mary were in the Port Macquarie area since at least 1844 (maybe even earlier) when their daughter Jane was born.  Maybe Christopher and Mary weren't convicts at all???? 

I think to move forward what we need is:
    -  to get our hands on more of the inquest information
    -  someone who visits the Kingswood Reading Rooms to do some research for us there
    -  I will have to save up and try and think about getting death certificates for Christopher and Mary to see if they can shed any light, or even the Birth certificates of a couple of their children.

I welcome any further information anybody can find.

Kind regards, AB

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Australia Resources & Offers / Re: OFFER: FAWKNER CEMETERY GRAVE PHOTOS
« on: Friday 03 January 14 02:03 GMT (UK)  »
Jillian you are a legend.

I can't believe you were so quick.


Regards, AB   :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Thanks Shane.

Hopefully somebody might be able to shed further light for me.



AB

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Ireland / Help with a marriage record please - McNAMEE or RYAN (convicts to Australia)
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 01:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there,

I am trying to confirm the marriage of the following people between 1830 and 1837  (before they were transported to Australia as convicts).

Christopher John McNamee to Mary (surname unknown)  or
Christopher John Ryan to Mary (surname unknown).

Mary's surname MIGHT be Dowling or Doyle or something similar.

I don't know where they were married but Dublin, Limerick or Westmeath could be possibilities.   Their ages would have been in late teens or in their 20's.

Any help would be VERY appreciated.


Thank you.


AB

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Australia / Re: McNAMEE Christopher John - was he a convict???
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 00:09 GMT (UK)  »
1.  "Where did you find the second forename of John for Christopher?"

The middle name of "John" came from the death records of 2 of Christopher and Mary's children.

     -  son William died at Bundarra in 1912, his father is listed as "John" and mother as "Mary".  William's birth record in 1846 has his father as "Christopher" and mother as "Mary"
     -  daughter Sarah Ready (married name) died at Bundarra in 1885, her father is listed as "Christopher J".  Can't find a birth record for Sarah.

2.  " Christopher MacNamee (sic), 75
Inquest held 20 June 1888, by W W Fraser at Bundarra, district of Armidale
Date of death: 31 May 1888
Born Ireland, Died Bundarra
Cause of Death: Inflammation of the kidneys and bladder brought on from exposure.
Cash or property owned by deceased: Nil.
"

Judith, re the inquest information.  I have scanned Trove and found a record of a "fatal buggy accident" reported on 1st June 1888, where the man and his wife were left to lie in the open overnight and he subsequently died.  What is curious is the man's surname of "RYAN" in the newspaper article and he is 75 yrs old.  Remember I found that convict record for "Christopher Ryan" in 1836.   Just interesting.    :-\

Is there anymore information available anywhere about that inquest?



AB

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Australia Resources & Offers / Re: OFFER: FAWKNER CEMETERY GRAVE PHOTOS
« on: Tuesday 31 December 13 03:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there,

If the offer is still available, could I ask that the next time you visit the Fawkner Cemetery, could you take a photo for me of :

    CURTIS, Phyllis Lucia   -  d. Oct 1970, and
    CURTIS, Eric  -  d. 22/5/2001

both are at Church of England, Compartment C, Grave 752.


Thank you so much.


AB

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Australia / Re: McNAMEE Christopher John - was he a convict???
« on: Tuesday 31 December 13 00:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Everyone,

Firstly  -  thank you for all your responses.  This is all very puzzling.

Q1  -  how come we can't find any mention of Christopher McNamee on any convict ship prior to Mary's transportation date of 1837  (given the remarks of her husband being transported abt 12 mths earlier?)

Q2  -  why can't I find a ticket of leave, or any record at all really of a convict called Christopher McNamee?

Q3  -  can anybody find a marriage record for Christopher and Mary in Ireland?

Q4  -  Isn't is curious that on Christopher McNamee's death record it says his mother's name is "unknown Ryan", given there is a transportation record for a Christopher Ryan on the EARL GREY in 1836, age 30 (similar to Mary's age) with a trial date in 1836 in Limerick City, sentenced to Life for horse stealing, and a wife called Mary.  Coincidence???  Red-herring???

          Where this falls down, compare to Mary's record is that Christopher Ryan's record says he is married with 3 children (2 male, 1 female) and Mary McNamee's record says no children.


It is also doing my head in.


AB   :-\

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Australia / McNAMEE Christopher John - was he a convict???
« on: Monday 30 December 13 06:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hello All,

I would like some assistance to try and confirm, or not confirm, that Christopher was a convict.

Some researchers believe that he was a convict but I am unable to source any evidence to confirm the details.

What others believe is:
    -  he came from Westmeath in Ireland, born about 1813
    -  he was transported to Australia in 1836
    -  he was sentenced to Life
    -  he died in 1888 at Bundarra in NSW
    -  he married another convict Mary (surname unknown).  Mary was sent to Australia in 1837, and she also died in Bundarra in NSW in 1889.

If anyone can assist in providing any evidence to support any of the above I would be VERY appreciative.


Thank you, AB      :)

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Australia Resources & Offers / Re: Offer - MI's Central Goldfields District Victoria
« on: Thursday 13 December 12 23:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Shirley,

I'm not familiar with what towns are in this district.  Could you please give a list of a couple of the main towns.


Thank you, AB

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