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New Zealand / Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« on: Friday 20 November 20 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
EDIT............ I have a long standing interest of any Joyce Family especially of Drumlin Hill.........
Appreciate the quality and kindliness of the Rootchat forum

Hello from a Waikato researcher.

While JOYCE is not one of the early settler families that I have looked into, I'm aware that it is a surname that has been in these parts, for a long time. Should you wish to delve deeper, you will find interments in the Hautapu Cemetery [out in the Waipa County a few miles, but the Cambridge Cemetery, since the 1860's] and the Hamilton City cemeteries data bases.

As George appears as a middle name, there is a Peter George JOYCE d. 9/1/1911; 27 years, interment at Hautapu Cemetery.


New Zealand / Re: Barwell Annie nee Joyce
« on: Friday 20 November 20 20:00 GMT (UK)  »
What a comprehensive list.  Thanks for sharing SPADES.


New Zealand / Re: Born and married the same year?
« on: Sunday 15 November 20 20:49 GMT (UK)  »
Info from late 1960's and into 1970's re Businesses John Asplin had an interest in.  Google won't now find Milton street HAMILTON, as a new bypass was created that incorporated the former Milton street.


New Zealand / Re: Born and married the same year?
« on: Friday 13 November 20 20:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Lucy. Very useful. Though I am not in a position to visit libraries etc in NZ as I live in Scotland.

Yes, I was aware that you lived in Scotland, but mentioned the fact about the records at New Zealand Libraries etc. because that's where they are housed.  ;)

You'll see earlier that I gave address in 1938 for John ASPLIN as Rukuhia, Waikato. 
The largest (and perhaps nearest) registry office for that timeframe, was probably Hamilton (at that time a borough - became a city in 1945).   

You were asking about "any way of working out from the index where an event was registered" ... so hopefully that's already been explained previously ?

If you need to know the exact place of birth though, then you'd need to purchase the Birth record (1938 version) from NZ BDM.   :)    Hope that helps ?

    ~   Lu


A lot is known, and written about this RUKUHIA ASPLIN family. Just off the top of my head, Asplin's Garage on the highway south of Hamilton, at Rukuhia, was constantly being photographed, after they were successful in obtaining redundant / surplus American aircraft and parts and set up a wrecking yard, adjacent to the garage in the 1950's. The wheels made ideal tyers for large farm trailers on the near by soft peatlands, electrical gear turned into mobile farm welders, and with the shortage of imported metal, framing and sheet aluminium found a ready market.

No time to search for you now, but I am sure you will find hits combining the surname with "Garage" and "Rukuhia"

PS; the photo archives librarian at the Hamilton City Library, I'm sure would be happy to hunt out some photos for you.


New Zealand / Re: PAPERS PAST - Part V
« on: Sunday 08 November 20 22:47 GMT (UK)  »
Keep them comming.



New Zealand / Re: Annie Curme SHEPHERD nee KEET.
« on: Tuesday 03 November 20 01:42 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your continued interest Lu.

The items on the table are my editorial notations. The source for them, in the main, being from within the recovered text of the GRANDMAMA tale, as published by the Waikato Times. My assumption that David BRUCE is/was the Rev David Bruce is because of press coverage of his appointment - arrival - and preaching immediately following the arrival of the SIMLAH at Auckland. NOTE Two months was the stated age of her child a Christmas, and though her story has them immediatley thereafter, boarding the vessel, the papers record it leaving GRAVESEND on February 19th. She stated the voyage lasted 100 days and had arrived in March, but our papers record the arrival at the begining of June, so probably nearer 110 days from clearing the UK to Auckland.  The Maungatautari Marae history notes on their web page, give some more insight the the SHEPHERD'S presence in their community, and supports Annie's account of that period.

Interesting for me, is the fact that the email that awaited my return on Sunday, while relating to my Hukanui research, referred to the genealogy links of key people in that research, to those mentioned in the Maungatautari Marae history notes. [NgatiWairere]

Still trying to find photo's / lithograph's of laden canoes as described by Annie. Closest I came to are some from Wanganui River transportation. Can not recall one of a canoe loaded up how Annie described, but thousands of tons of freight found it's way to Pura Pura and through the Waiuku portage route, and return of Colonial goods.

Now have some UK press clippings, pre sailing of the Simlah, but nothing on the newly [?] married Captain James TURNBULL.  Most the reports in the UK and even NZ after the arrival were naming a former Captain Robinson, as in command. Attached the 1852 shipping out rates.


4/1/20 Edit. Correction; changed Museum to read Marae.

New Zealand / Re: Annie Curme SHEPHERD nee KEET.
« on: Monday 02 November 20 10:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again - Lu

Re reply #47; I will attach my spread sheet list generated from the main press clippings that I have collected. It's pretty consistant except for the 'POTT'S'.

Driving to Waiuku, it hit me that while I was concentrating on the comparison between Annie's account of her fellow SIMLAH passengers, and that of the signed testimonial, it was published at the end [Auckland] of the first leg of the voygage, and that the destination was New Plymouth, where the Taranaki Herald only named Mrs SHEPHERD & child, and Mr SALISBURY, but there were probably others sharing the two cabins.

Other press clippings noted that the Rev., David BRUCE arrived, and did not waste time taking up his duties.

Re the Cresswell, that ship went first to New Plymouth, and a signed testimonial was published by the Taranaki Herald, on August 31st, as you state.



PS. I see yesterday I said the SIMLAH arrived at New Plymouth on August 10th but now note the date stated in the Shipping Inteligence report, was August 6th. So a few more days before the publishing date.

New Zealand / Re: Kendal
« on: Monday 02 November 20 10:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Again.

FOR YOUR TOMORROW. The three books by Errol MARTYN, will give you the most detailed collection of records of airman in NZ service. Available in leading NZ & UK libraries. Not sure if Errol is personally answering emails any longer, but has been a great help to my research in the past.

If interested there are probably school enrollment records that could be found for some of his schooling. Not sure of the publically available cut off point, but others would know.


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