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Carlow / Re: Kilcloney evictions
« on: Saturday 01 January 22 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
There was an article in the 2020 Carloviana magazine about that eviction .If you like will have a look for it and see if any mention of the above family .

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Carlow / Re: Was the army of the British East India Company ever in Carlow?
« on: Monday 29 November 21 13:13 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at the marriage entry it gives the address for both parties as Coal Market which is a street in Carlow town .Its now called Kennedy street .
I wonder perhaps is this where you got the coal merchant from ?

The address given for his parents looks like Black????? Kildare to me (Blackswood near Prosperous ?)

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634430#page/25/mode/1up

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Carlow / Re: Charles LYONS of Cranemore b. 1870 Immigrated to U.S. 1891
« on: Friday 12 November 21 10:40 GMT (UK)  »
Do you see any possible siblings for Maria Corcoran? anyone in their households or next door to them by that name? Can you find an image of their marriage record - church or civil - who were the witnesses?

I guess the index of her death record that Sandra posted has all the information that was on the original. If it included even the street address, then I would guess it would include her mother's maiden name if it was there. or her father's given name. You could send for the record itself, if you think it is worth the chance there is more information on it than on the transcript at familysearch.

"Anastasia" might indicate she was from the south east of Ireland:
https://www.johngrenham.com/surnamescode/forenames_gro.php?forename=Anastasia

I know the dates don't match what you have but see a Maria Corcoran born July 1869 in Knockroe to Michael Corcoran and Kate Byrne .
Knockroe and Craanmore are very close to one another .They are townlands on the slopes of Mt. Leinster in the Blackstairs ;Knockroe is on the Borris side whilst Cranmore is on the Kildavin/Bunclody side .

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03381/2239760.pdf

Might be worth a look as many Irish emigrants married a person "from home" in the USA .

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Husband and I have mutual DNA Match!
« on: Sunday 07 November 21 21:40 GMT (UK)  »
Have similar on Ancestry .

I match a known 3rd cousin on my paternal side at 63cM whilst the same lady shows up as a match to my wife of 21cM and her son shows up as sharing 22cM with my wife .
Her son doesn't show up on my match list at all .

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Have my test on Ancestry as well .

Two siblings who are 3rd cousins to me share very different amounts of DNA with me .One shows as sharing 193cM across 8 segments whilst his sister shares just 32cM across 4 segments .They are full brother/sister .
Our great grandparents were siblings .
Have 20 shared matches with the first test and 9 with the second .

2nd cousin once removed on same family side ie same generational difference but my grandfather and their great grandmother were siblings I share just 39cM with .they show as a shared match for the first 3rd cousin but not the 2nd one .

Another 3rd cousin matches at 63cM whilst her first cousin (again 3rd cousin to me )doesn't appear on my match list at all .They are definite 1st cousins as DNA shared between them confirms this and therefore second person is definite 3rd cousin to me but no sign of them .


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Confusing large group of DNA matches
« on: Wednesday 03 March 21 18:46 GMT (UK)  »
Have almost exactly the same dilemma with DNA group on Ancestry.Heaps and heaps of matches (200 plus at this stage )ranging from 50cM back to 8cM ,all seemingly connected to southern US states with what looks likely from available trees a common ancestor and no obvious connection to Ireland.
My thread here ;

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=826406.0

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« on: Monday 01 March 21 23:03 GMT (UK)  »
I think I would take the 'Noland' surname popping up in your US matches as being significant - it isn't a long leap from Nolan. (I have ancestors who arrived in 18C America from Germany with the name 'Knisely'; some of their descendents are 'Nicely').

Ethnicity from Ancestry tests is not of course wholly reliable, but if your matches have up to 20% Irish
shown in their results, I wouldn't dismiss that as insignificant.  My mother's 3xgreat grandfather was an Irishman from Dublin, born of Irish parents - Ancestry doesn't give her any Irish ethnicity at all. My husband's 2xgreat grandfather was also Irish - Ancestry gives him 4% Irish ethnicity.

Not too sure I would place much faith in Ancestry ethnicity results as think they are based on tree matches.
Taking my closest matches of the group ;
49cM shared over 1 segment ; ethnicity result is 3%Irish,39% Scotland ,36% England ,12% Wales ,3% Norway .

45cM over 1 segment ;ethnicity result is 2% Irish,30% Scotland ,27% England ,18% Wales ,2% Norway

45cM over 1 segment ; ethnicity result is 15% Irish ,31% Scotland, 46% England ,7% Wales .

My own test shows as 97% Irish and 3% Scotland.


Went back for another look and looked at names/surnames in trees where available.
No recognisable "Irish " surnames at all as far as I could see.
Even the christian names are real Southern USA ones to my eyes , eg,Rufus ,Robert Lee ,Zelica ,Virgil Lee ,Erasberry ,Reuben Pickett etc.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« on: Monday 01 March 21 01:25 GMT (UK)  »
Perhaps the common ancestor was a British soldier, who was stationed in Ireland and USA. This might mean that you have a non parental event in one of your lines.

The NPE would have had to have been a fair bit back I think .
Have confirmed DNA matches on all sides back to my great great  grandparents .

Its on my Paternal side for sure as none show a match to my mothers test .
Also none show up on match lists for any 3rd cousins that have checked for me.
Its a real mystery so far and problem is getting someone from that group who is interested enough to follow it up.
Quick look on Ancestry shows I have 234 in that group.Only put in those that are a shared match with 3 or more people.
Whats also unusual is that the vast majority have 20 plus shared matches for me whilst on any other line its usually 10 at the very most for 3rd cousins.
Maybe the fact that Ancestry is very US biased re. test numbers could influence that.

My tree stops at c.1800 as that's about it regarding Irish records.Have a few distant DNA matches that suggest connections mid to late 18th century but unprovable really .Can probably place where they might fit in as both my parents were from 2 different counties but each had ancestors who came entirely from within 3/4 miles of where they were respectively born.

What I really need is someone on that match list who finds some Irish connection .Wonder sometimes if one "inaccurate" tree is copied over and over again as it seems to fit the facts but then again contacted a person couple of years ago on a message board re. the same general family and they had the same details.They were totally record based and had no interest in DNA whatsoever.They also had no idea of any Irish connection.

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