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Cumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Cuthell headstone, St Mungos Dearham
« on: Friday 13 January 12 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Yes you are probably right.
thank you again

Cumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Cuthell headstone, St Mungos Dearham
« on: Thursday 12 January 12 16:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much, a great help. Didn't even know there was anything on the back, quite unusual although the
front does look quite full.

Very interesting I had found one of the infant Guy's but not 2, this will explain the discrepancy in dates. Not a lucky

It makes you wonder who paid for the erection and why buried in Dearham. Up to 1880 all fairly inpoverished,
living in Nelson Street Maryport. So out of parish and not much money. One son William went on to live until his 90's
was an engineer and a board member of the Maryport coop, so maybe him.

Thank you for your help and your time.

Cumberland Lookup Requests / Cuthell headstone, St Mungos Dearham
« on: Tuesday 10 January 12 15:20 GMT (UK)  »
Is there any out there who lives in Dearham, that would be willing to go into the churchyard and have a look for a headstone for Guy Cuthell,  d 15/10/1832 also includes James Cuthell died 4/2/1887 a second Guy d 1865.

It is in the bit that it is kept mown around the church, I do have a picture but it is taken from the side and I cannot read the inscriptions.

I would like a transcription of the head stone or a good photograph.

Hope some one can help, if you need the photograph I can forward.

Frances 13

Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Thursday 22 September 11 11:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi both

Thank you for the info on Richard, I cannot access the Scottish census. I think you are right he probably went with his father
and the two youngest have been left with the farmer where they lived in Ellenborough. Family rumour is that they used to go on Holiday to Bo'ness and that was how Richard met his wife. Considering the times and their economic position I think it is much more likely that Richard went along with his father to find work. I presume on the 1861 census he is at the pottery.

I pulled up William Sheehans military record, it says he joined up in Cork at the age of 15. so I think it is a bit of a long shot, his army record makes interesting reading, he was a heavy drinker and was of bad character.

I think Michael may be in Liverpool as a shoemaker, but again a guess. Sheehan is a very common name.

I got the info about John dying at Bo'ness from a lady on ancestry who had the Middleton family tree, annoyingly I can not now find the piece of paper, at the moment.

If you find anything on John I would be really pleased to know.

Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 11:39 BST (UK)  »
HI Gnu and Seoras

John Sheehan I have one record that says he is on aScottish Census 1871, however he also could be the John Sheehan who died in the workhouse in London. I haven't got access to the scottish census and as there are a family of sheehans in Middlesex I presumed the workhouse death was theres.

I know never presume.

I do have to thank you both for all your help, I would love to know what sources you use because you come up with things i haven't found.

Thanks Frances

Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 13:23 BST (UK)  »

I think I have William there in 1861 and 1851 as a private in the army (kent)

Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 12:46 BST (UK)  »
I have one of Albert's brothers in Liverpool, married, so mother could have been visiting or living there. Albert's father was definitely a customs officer. But who is Hannah I have no record of a Hannah anywhere.

regards Frances

Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 11:21 BST (UK)  »
You two are keen, I got Johns death details from a lady in Scotland who sent me the excerpt. I will look out the details tonight for you.

A really interesting one is Matthew Hill Sheehan he ended up in Lancashire, did not appear to marry but had 5 daughters. Went to South Africa and Australia died in the 1960's in Chorley, but spent all his life in SA. The family know very little about him except he sent the odd diamond back to the mother of children. None of the current family ever met him so it is all second hand. I have found him on passenger lists going out and one coming back from Australia but little else.

Thank you for all you  help


Scotland / Re: scottish census records 1851/1861 SHEEHAN
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 10:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to both, I had not picked up the misspelling of the name and I think you are right the coder has written orphan instead of pauper. I had not found Henry P at all.

I have the births of Matthew Hill and Ann (my grandmother) but not the other brother John.

It still raises the question on where did Albert get to on the  1871, 1881 census. Ann stayed behind with her mother
and Albert returns living with mother in law in 1891. John and Ann Sheehan seem to disapear from the census returns as well.

Thank you for all your help, a few more names on the chart.

Regards Frances

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