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If you are trying to find his children's names one thing that worked for me recently, dealing with a similar time frame was the
full Electoral Register database in Pierce Street Library, which goes up to 1962/63.
(If you are in Dublin)
You can search by address and in theory, as they come of age to vote they appear on the register - Just a bit of a short cut then you have some names to cross check with FamilySearch.

This is Bea and Frankie. Lovely photo but would love a coloured version. Taken 1917 just after their wedding in December 1916.
Thanks.

Ruskie - Well, that's also an interesting idea that I didn't think of - 1930's, but does not equate with anything I know of the family. In 1850's I have them with a solid business and seemingly profitable enough to allow them to describe themselves as 'gentleman' on various records. By 1930's, the line I have in mind had mostly died out but are now describing themselves as 'labourer' and the need or want of such a painting is beyond me at that point, and I suspect them.
It is framed, and was re framed in the mid 1990s. I attribute the good condition to it having lived in many an attic away from the light.

Yep - it's a proper wall portrait.
I have a candidate in mind for him but want so see if the daters agree to confirm .

Also I don't know if anyone on here specialises in painting but i would be really interested to know WHO would have a need for such a painting and in order to pay for it what type of social class we are looking at. I have old family photos  (1890 - 1900) where the sitters look quite well off, but I know they were poor and had saved and dressed up to have the photo taken. If we are talking 1850's would the same have happened with painting ?

Alec Guinness and Franklin D. Roosevelt very good!! I can see that.

Hi All
This painting has been handed down through the family - no nobody seems to know who he is - I know that he his on my dad's side of the family so i wonder, now I have identified  a lot of his ancestors, if I can date it I might be able to give him a name. It is painted on a sheet of copper if that is relevant,
thanks