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Suffolk / Re: BALDERS/BOLDERS of Hopton, Suffolk
« on: Friday 16 July 21 16:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi David,

Thank you very much for your very helpful post.  This does appear to be the Will of the Mary Balders I am looking for.  Having looked at her Will, it is easy to see how her name was reorded as Boldero.  I had the same problem with reading her name when transcribing Elizabeth Asty's Will.

If it's not too much trouble, please could you tell me how you tracked down the Will on Family Search as it would be very useful to know for tracking down other Wills.  I have been trying to find it via the Search page but am obviously not looking in the right place!

Thanks very much,

Rosemary


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Suffolk / BALDERS/BOLDERS of Hopton, Suffolk
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 20:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Is anyone researching the surname BALDERS/BOLDERS with conections to the village of Hopton?

I am trying to identify Mary Balders of Hopton who was the executrix of the Will of Elizabeth Asty of Great Ellingham, Norfolk dated 1724.

Grateful thanks to anyone who can help.


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Norfolk / Re: Asty connection to Quadling and Balders/Bolders families
« on: Tuesday 06 July 21 09:34 BST (UK)  »
I've just discovered this document at NRO which indicates that Elizabeth Asty, daughter of Robert Asty married Robert Maltwood so it looks as if she is not the Elizabeth Asty of Great Ellingham

https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/manor-of-saham-toney-extracts-from-court-roll-admission-of-elizabeth-maltwood-on-the-death-of-robert-asty-her-father-and-surrender-of-robert-%20maltwood-and-elizabeth-his-wife-and-re-admission-to-uses-specified

I forgot to mention in my original post that Elizabeth Asty of Great Ellingham also mentions Robert Asty of Orford in her Will; he is a different Robert from the Robert son of Robert Asty, Congregational minister in Norwich.

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Norfolk / Re: Asty connection to Quadling and Balders/Bolders families
« on: Monday 05 July 21 23:06 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your resonse to my query.  I am very hopefuly that the marriage you have found at Little Ellingham is that of Elizabeth Asty's parents.  Interestingly Norfolk Records Office holds the following document which relates to the marriage:
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/manor-of-saham-toney-extract-from-court-roll-admission-of-robert-asty-and-elizabeth-ellis-his-intended-wife-on-the-surrender-of-robert-asty

Thank you too for the details of the burial of Elizabeth Asty in 1679/80.  I  have now also found a baptism for Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Asty on 28 February 1676/77 at Ovington  and also a burial for Robert Asty at Ovington on 26th July 1697. 

The Will doesn't say where Mary Quadling lived but it appears to indicate that Mary Balders lived in or close to Great Ellingham.


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Norfolk / Asty connection to Quadling and Balders/Bolders families
« on: Saturday 03 July 21 15:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Does anyone have any Asty ancestors connected to the Quadling and Bolder/Balder surnames?

I have recently been transcribing the 1724 Will of Elizabeth Asty of Great Ellingham.  Elizabeth is described as a 'singlewoman'.  She left a number of legacies but she doesn't mention any brothers, sisters, nephews or nieces and so appears to have been an only child.  She does, however, mention the following relatives:

Her cousin Mary Balders who is also her executrix
Her cousin, Mary Quadling.
Houses and lands in Great Ellingham owned by her mother, Eliza or Elizabeth Asty before the time of her marriage
Robert Asty and John C Asty, the sons of Robert Asty (deceased) former minister of the Congregational Church in Norwich.

Elizabeth and her Asty relations were Nonconformists and so trying to work out their family connections is proving to be challenging. 

If anyone is able to help, I would be very grateful.

Thank you very much.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Symbol on 18th century Will
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Horselydown86

Thank you very much for your very helpful reply which makes really good sense.  As Erato has commented though, it is difficult to see how such a contraction mark along with the colon saves any time, effort or ink!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Symbol on 18th century Will
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 15:13 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Could anyone tell me what the symbol above the colon in the words on the attached image means, please.  It come from a Norfolk Will dated 1724.  I am not sure what the words themselves are and hope that understanding what the symbol is may help.

The first one occurs in the following phrase:
''that my Trustees shall endeavor wth ye Consent of ye Lord of ******* to puchase a fee simple...'' 
Logic would say the word is 'Manor' but the word is followed by a colon and so appears to be a shortened form of the word.

The second one occurs in the phrase ''to assist my aforenamed Executrix & in selling ye Lands & to advise her in ye best ****** be.
Again there is possibly a colon, although it is more difficult to be certain, and the word is possibly 'manner'

But in both cases what is the significance of the symbol above and does it affect the meaning of the words?
 
Grateful thanks to anyone who can help.

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Banffshire / Re: John CUY (Cowie- Rover)/Margaret FIDLER 1789 Rathven
« on: Saturday 02 January 21 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
Skoosh,

Thank you very much for your message. The local pronunciation of Cowie as Cooie certainly helps to explain the variant spelling Cuy!  I didn't know that Rathven was pronounced as Raffen so that is useful to know as well.  :)

Tamarclaire

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Banffshire / Re: John CUY (Cowie- Rover)/Margaret FIDLER 1789 Rathven
« on: Thursday 31 December 20 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Colin,

Thank you very much for your reply to my post.  I have been looking at the Fiddler families in the four parishes you listed where a baptism for a Margaret Fiddler has been recorded.  The Cowie 'Rover' family were all fishermen and so the Cromarty and Slains references are especially interesting.

The Cromarty family is also interesting because one of the children was named David. One of James Cowie's sons was also named David but it wasn't a common name among the fishing families in Buckie at that time and I have often wondered where it came from.

I think it is very possible that one of the Margaret Fiddlers you have found is the one who married John Cowie but, without further information,  it is going to be difficult to work out which one!

I am still hoping that someone may have John Cowie and Margaret Fiddler hidden away among their ancestors!

Tamarclaire

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