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London and Middlesex / Re: William Harmer b Marylebone c1812
« on: Saturday 11 January 14 15:08 GMT (UK)  »
I see where you got Market Street in 1861 from.

Daughter, Mary Ann, got married then.  Lived Market Street.  Father William Harmer - coachman.

Daughter, Jane Elizabeth, married in 1872 - father William Harmer - cabman

Neither of the daughters mentioned that their father had died, but that doesn't neccesarily mean he hadn't.

London and Middlesex / Re: William Harmer b Marylebone c1812
« on: Saturday 11 January 14 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
Jane in the workhouse says she was born in Ipswich.

London and Middlesex / Re: Arthur John Harper b1886 Lambeth
« on: Saturday 11 January 14 12:00 GMT (UK)  »
There's a baptism for Arthur John Harper - 1886 - Lambeth - parents William and Elizabeth.  So looks like the one who died in WWI wasn't yours.

London and Middlesex / Re: William Harmer b Marylebone c1812
« on: Saturday 11 January 14 11:33 GMT (UK)  »
Well, I'm afraid I can't even find him in 1861!    I've been all along Market Street in Paddington, and no sign of him.

Is he the William Harmer - an ostler - living in Marylebone with his wife Jane, on the 1851 census?

IF so, his wife Jane appears to be a pauper in Marylebone Workhouse in 1861.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where is this place in Yorkshire?
« on: Friday 10 January 14 08:59 GMT (UK)  »
It looks like Lidling.

My guess would be Lindley, near Harrogate.

I agree with Kay.  It definitely looks like Bolton.

Check it against the previous page - Joseph Thornton baptised on 23rd August 1778 (the pages go back)

All true Jim  :(

This photo fascinates me. Every few months or so, it is resurrected and I try to fathom out who they all may be.

I wonder, especially, if the woman in the middle is my nan's mother.  Probably impossible to know.

Thank you all so much for your contributions so far.

It's an absolute treat to hear other people's opinions, and to see these amazing photo improvements.  Each one gives a new perspective. :)

Wiggy - I see what you mean about the weatherboards, but they're not something I've come across.  I don't think they'd stand up well to the English weather.

I agree with you Seoras, that the man seems to be the husband of the woman in front.

I spent hours last night tracing down on my nan's many aunts and uncles.  There's just one possibility - she had an aunt, who would have been 47 in 1894.  This aunt had daughters aged 21, 17 and 11.  So possibly the woman and three standing girls on the right.

I can't find anyone to tie in with the family on the left-hand side though.

IF this is the christening  -  on the same day (apart from 3 babies) George Saggers was also baptised (born April 1889).  So could be the little boy (it is a boy isn't it?).   Looking at George Saggers on the 1891 census, his parents were aged 34 and 31 but he didn't have any sisters. :(

If he wasn't being christened, why was the poor child dressed like that?  He must have been freezing!

A good point about the lack of fathers, Frank, but IF this was my nan's christening, I'm assuming her father wasn't there as he was recorded as deceased (which he wasn't)!

Now I've taken a more in-depth look at All Saints, Haggerston, and there is a similarity with the window design.

Maybe this was a wooden extension round the back (not in any photos I can see)

I don't think I'm allowed to take someone elses pictures off the internet to put on here, so I won't do that.

Would someone else mind taking a look at photos of the church and telling me what they think.  It could just be a very common window design.

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