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For Sale / Wanted / Events / Travellers Remember Hopping Time - back in print
« on: Friday 22 September 23 12:06 BST (UK)  »
This publication has been out-of-print for 10 years and has been made available again so that today’s family historians can get a real sense of what their Romany ancestors experienced in the hop-gardens of Kent, Sussex, Hampshire and Herefordshire.

The book contains people’s memories and photos of when they or their older family members used to go hop-picking plus articles about the history of the craft.

Surnames of individual Travellers mentioned in the book: Ayres, Bassett, Beaney, Black, Brazil, Bridges, Carey, Cooper, Doe, Frankham, Gray, Gregory,  Hawkins, Hearn, Hiscox, Hunt, Johnson, Lee, Loveday, Loveridge, Macklin, Mitchell, Moore, Othen, Pickett, Price, Ray, Smith, Stevens.


See https://rtfhs.org.uk/publications/history/ for details.


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The Common Room / Re: Looking for Death and Burial Record
« on: Tuesday 12 September 23 08:56 BST (UK)  »
Maybe this would be better in the USA forum?

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Hi all,

My x3-great grandmother, Selina Gleeson died on the 13th March 1928, aged 72 in Neath, Glamorganshire.

Her death certificate says '70', but there is a note below that says;
"In entry No. 349 Col 4 for '70' read '72' corrected on the 11th May 1928 by Mr W Evans Registrar on production of a statutory declaration made by A Baker and S Groves'

Does anyone know what this means and why the age was altered  two months after her death registration?
Does anyone also know why you needed two people to make this declaration to the registrar?

I have seen her birth certificate, and she was born 2nd December 1855, therefore making the age correction on the death certificate correct.

For context, A Baker was her son-in-law and S Groves her nephew.

Thank you,
BSmith

I wonder if Messrs Baker and Groves had found/acquired a copy of her birth certificate by May and realised that the age given by the person registering her death didn't match her birth certificate?

Who registered the death?

And did she leave a will - were Messrs Baker and Groves the executors? Maybe in doing their duties they realised the age mistake and felt obliged to correct it so they were seen to be doing their executor duties correctly.

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The Common Room / Heritage Open Days 2023 - Family History Societies
« on: Thursday 31 August 23 16:11 BST (UK)  »
With apologies to those not in England.

This year's Heritage Open Days run from Thursday 8th to Sunday 17th September and all events are FREE to attend.

It's pleasing to see that some Family History Societies are holding events and I encourage you to go along if you are in the area - for example in Yorkshire, Norfolk and Devon.

Go here:
https://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/

Putting "family history" (in quotes) in the keyword box finds 53 events

or leave the keyword empty and search by area, county or local council to see what is happening near you.


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Canada / Re: Help in finding out if these 2 are the same person
« on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:06 BST (UK)  »
When he arrived in Canada in 1922, his fare was paid by the Strood Board of Governors, and he was bound to the Salvation Army Receiving Home in Toronto.

 Noted as a farm labourer.

Another organisation sending children to Canada for a better life was Mr Fegan's Homes. They had a home in Buckinghamshire and a training farm in Kent where boys were sent to learn how to farm before they made their trip to Canada so they would be useful and productive as soon as they arrived and could be found a placement.

I wonder if this Herbert Cooper had been somewhere similar to learn about farming prior to his trip to Canada.

Marjorie Kohli's 2003 book The Golden Bridge - Young Immigrants to Canada 1833-1939 explains the history of the Home Children and lists lots of organisations that were involved.

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The Common Room / Re: What happened to John Lea in Aston after early 1859’s?
« on: Monday 24 July 23 16:37 BST (UK)  »
There is a death reg in Birmingham in March qtr 1853, age 45. This looks promising in terms of d.o.b., but why Birmingham?

why Birmingham? - Maybe he died in a hospital or a workhouse in the Birmingham registration district.

My understanding is that a death is registered in the RD where it takes place.  So if he didn't die at home in Aston RD then he may have died somewhere in Birmingham RD.


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Many thanks PolarBear.

I'm assuming that Fred, having only recently lost his wife, would have found it convenient to stay with William and Minnie at this time (1921) so that she could provide childcare for young Doug whilst Fred worked.

Thanks again.


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Brenda Anderson, her husband Fred and adopted son (born Montague Douglas Bissell England Mar Q 1910) known as Doug arrived in Canada from England on the Empress of Ireland in April 1912.

The 1921 Census shows Fred, a widower, with his young son Doug at 31 Graham Avenue in the developing Mount Dennis, Toronto, area.

They are in the same house as their friends William and Minnie Eck, whom they had travelled with on the Empress, along with William and Minnie's son William and their daughter Erna.

Graham Avenue appears to be renamed Emmett Avenue sometime between the 1921 Census and April 1926 when 31 Emmett Ave is given as the address of the groom when young William Eck mentioned above married.

Please can anyone find any info about Brenda's death?

Thanks

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Canada / Re: 1921 Census - where was/is 31 Graham Avenue, Toronto?
« on: Thursday 06 July 23 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks and very well done Hanes and Alan for tracking this down!

Wonder why Emmett was preferred to Graham for the name of the street - we shall probably never know but interesting that a lot of renaming was going on in the area.

It must have been quite an exciting time to be living there with all the new developments going up - early residents must have felt a sense of being a pioneer in the same way that the first residents of the UK New Towns of the 1950s and '60s did.

Thanks again.


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