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The Lighter Side / Re: Where is Wales?
« on: Saturday 05 March 22 13:37 GMT (UK)  »

No wonder family historians have a permanently furrowed brow and prematurely grey hair  ;D

The Common Room / Re: Round about a Pound a Week video
« on: Saturday 05 March 22 09:47 GMT (UK)  »

We were married in 1971. Fortnightly rent £11.  We shopped once a week in Key Markets £5 or thereabouts.  Meat from the butcher . We had a big garden, husband an East Ender had never had experience of growing anything.  His father and our lovely elderly neighbour helped out in the first couple of years. Showing us what to plant and when. We bought four ex battery hens and added bantams to the flock as the years went by. We dug, we planted, and grew all our own fruit and veg. We had a wonderful Blenheim Orange apple tree. Two goats, we lived on a one track lane, no traffic and I used to peg them out on the verge where they browsed the hedgerow for part of the day. Milk and soft cheese.
We gathered fire wood where we could and bought household coal for the Rayburn, the cheapest at about £7 a ton in Summer . The old outdoor lav converted with boards across the door to use as the coal store.
Happy, happy days…we were blessed  :D

There are several people in the 1851 and 1861 censuses with birthplace Widborn/Widburn/Widbourn in Herefordshire. Whitbourne does seem most likely.

Imagine Whitbourne said with that Herefordshire accent and you can see how t becomes d  and bourne becomes burn or bun :)

The Common Room / Re: Is there a Logical Answer?
« on: Friday 04 March 22 09:05 GMT (UK)  »
Just to add - when you are all ordering birth certificates from the gro you automatically get a full (long) birth certificate and assume that the person concerned also had that, thus showing all information, some of it contrary to what was used in life.

As proved by Lizzie and I not everybody was provided with a full birth certificate and may not ever have purchased one so there is a name on the full certificate which is likely to have been used as their official name in life and maybe a different one to that they were known as.

Does anybody know when short certificates were replaced by long ones?  Mine was issued in 1956 but both my sister 1959 and brother 1961 have long certificates, but they were both born in a different county to me.  Could that have anything to do with it?


1978 and 1980 - I have both long and short certs for these two dates so certainly still available at those dates.
Not thought about this until now. Have they been replaced or is it that the short version is issued free and the longer version has to be paid for ?  I have several ‘historic’ short versions. :-\

The Common Room / Re: Is there a Logical Answer?
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 08:46 GMT (UK)  »
Norman, there have been similar questions on rootschat in the past. Swapping between surnames can be confusing, but it happened quite a lot.  :)

Not only confusing for us but also for the family, seems some were uncertain themselves.

I have two families in my tree and one in my husbands. The children appear to be known in day to day life by their stepfathers surname. Some when they marry use their birth surname ie the one they were registered under and which appears on their birth certificate.  Some use both surnames at various times in life.

One couple who both had living spouses couldn’t marry but lived together. They had five children, all were registered in one borough with mothers previous married surname, they then traveled into a neighbouring borough and registered them again with their father’s surname . This late 1920s early 1930s.

Australia / Re: What does this say :-)
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
Could it be a/c = account  :-\

I agree with account. It was written thus many moons ago when I was a lowly wages clerk  ;D

The Common Room / Re: What does SP mean?
« on: Tuesday 01 March 22 11:38 GMT (UK)  »
Could it mean spurious? (illegitimate)

I’d agree with that.

Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: Waldron Marriage Register - ASHDOWN/JARVIS
« on: Saturday 26 February 22 12:01 GMT (UK)  »

Can't help you with the parents but the SMI (Sussex Marriage Index) does record the marriage at Waldron - 15th February 1805 between William ASHDOWN of Chiddingly and Frances JERVIS.  No further information.

For baptisms - are you a member of the Sussex Family History  Group, well worth the small sub for access to the baptisms and burial transcriptions database.
Marriages are only available on CD

The Common Room / Re: Property address in 1921 Census
« on: Tuesday 15 February 22 17:06 GMT (UK)  »

 ::) Hope you have better luck than me. I have access to four images, the one that is supposed to have the address is blank! Not sure how that passed the enumerator since he appears to have completed the majority of the form ::)

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