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Sussex / Re: Allen 1841 please
« on: Thursday 27 May 21 22:24 BST (UK)  »
Re. what if anything going on in Battle and district at the time, it might be worth contacting the Battle & District Historical Society to see if they have any info about epidemics etc. at the time.

Unfortunately the burials transcription for Battle St Mary's is in christian name order not date so it's exceedingly awkward to determine if there were larger than normal burials occurring - this caused me no end of issues tracing my ancestors in the area.

If you are using the SFHG database you can sort by forename, surname or date order.

Choose the parish, choose baptisms or burials. When you have chosen the year group you will get the title. Look for the book symbol to the right, click on the book and you will get the list...along the top are the choices .

Sussex / Re: Allen 1841 please
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 19:15 BST (UK)  »
What would be a Private Baptism?

It would most likely have been a baptism conducted very soon after the birth if there was a risk that the child would not survive.


Agree, little Alfred was only 11 weeks old when he died, he may actually have lived longer than expected.

Yes , regarding Walter, Battle Union was the workhouse.  In those days it was about the only place for someone to go if they were unwell, they usually had an infirmary of some description.  I guess by 1854 Walter was on his own and couldn’t be cared for at home.

Sussex / Re: Allen 1841 please
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 11:30 BST (UK)  »
Marriage from SMI - Battle East Sussex
Walter Allen and Harriett Jones - Bach - Sp - both of the Parish
21st December 1824

You may have these already...from SFHG members only database. 

Baptisms at Battle St Mary
Parents  Walter and Harriett - Walter a Farmer

Walter - 21st August 1825

Ann Allen - 29th June 1828 - Extra notes - Thos ? Dean (sic)

Harriett Susanna - 27th May 1832

Harriett - 22nd February 1839 - died aged 6 months - buried 5th July 1839

Alfred - 14th June 1844 - Private baptism - Walter now a labourer - Alfred died age 11 w buried 9th August 1844

Walter Snr - buried 13th April 1854 age 56 - Battle Union
Harriett - buried 19th August 1844 age 41

Sussex / Re: Allen 1841 please
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 09:59 BST (UK)  »

Not that it helps much but he was baptised at Battle St Mary 21st Feb 1836 as
JONAS ALLEN - son of Walter and Harriett - farmer

The Common Room / Re: What does tabled mean here?
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 08:46 BST (UK)  »

Could it mean that he was buried at Adel but had been living and died at Athington ?

The Common Room / Re: Sixpence
« on: Sunday 23 May 21 18:38 BST (UK)  »
Ref from Suey:
Half a dollar - 2/6d
Dollar 5/-

Surely 2/- was a "florin" and 2/6 was "half a crown" ??

Suey gave a list of slang words for money. My elder brothers (teenagers) called a half-a-crown a dollar. £1 must have been worth 4 dollars once.
It was but many uninformed people assumed it was referring to the American dollar, whereas it was referring to the "Spanish Dollar". This goes way back in history to the Napoleonic Wars when Britain was short of gold & silver coins and imported Spanish dollars to make up the shortfall, even though they contained less silver.

Well, I never knew that !  You learn something new every day  :D

The Common Room / Re: Sixpence
« on: Saturday 22 May 21 18:39 BST (UK)  »
Very interesting, Viktoria - we lived in Cheadle Hulme for a number of years, and obviously had contact with Stockport.  I have to say that from personal experience I would NEVER have associated Stockport with hat-making. Tripe, yes! and my daughter running up and down the windows in M & S  :-X

And the old 6p was known as a tanner, wasn't it?

Coppers - farthings, ha’pennies, pennies
Joey - 3d
Tanner 6d
Bob - 1s
Half a dollar - 2/6d
Dollar 5/-

Quid or a Nicker - one pound
Half a nicker - 10 Bob   ;D
Fiver - 5 pounds
Tenner - ten pounds
Score - 20 pounds
Pony - 25 pounds
Monkey - 500 pounds
Grand 1000 pounds

The coinage terms were common in our house, as was the quid. The rest I learned from my East Ender husband.

The Common Room / Re: Sixpence
« on: Friday 21 May 21 22:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, I remember the old money well, or proper money as the old folk called it at the time.
£2.92  seems a small penalty for taking part in the Manchester food riot

Is it not a bit irrelevant to see it in today’s terms?.  You would need to know his level of his wealth.
Imagine a labourer at one shilling a day, sixpence was half a days wage, which he could probably ill afford to lose.
I have an ancestor who was fined one pound and a few shillings costs, in default he went to ‘the house of correction for 14 days, this in 1867. As a labourer that may have been more than a weeks wage.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Admitted by whom?
« on: Saturday 15 May 21 10:51 BST (UK)  »
I think the letters after Rawson are AM = morning.

Add - now thinking it could be PM, given the form of P in Plymouth  ???

Yes, PM ...does look more likely.

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