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London and Middlesex / Re: St Mary Abbott's, Kensington burials/ deaths 1830s-40s
« on: Thursday 21 February 13 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
The trouble with researching St Mary Abbots, is that the church has not deposited their registers and records fore safe-keeping, they are still at the church. And asking them to undertake research is an option but costly.

For those who can get there, there are transcripts for St Mary Abbots on the open shelves at the Society of Genealogists library in London. For those who can't, the SoG offers a 'search and copy' service (at a price).

http://www.sog.org.uk/library/searches.shtml

6716
The Common Room / Re: Hamundo Name Query
« on: Thursday 21 February 13 21:17 GMT (UK)  »
I agree with cb. A few references among the Surrey deeds on this page (especially A.11644) suggest Hamundo is a latinization of Hamo ...

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64439

A spot of googling suggests that Hamo may derive from an Old German name meaning 'home' or 'house', but I wouldn't know how reliable those claims are.

6717
London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Hope Town in Whitechapel, Middlesex
« on: Monday 18 February 13 11:47 GMT (UK)  »
Mary Ann Hawes was born in 1795 in Montague Street, Whitechapel.  At the 1851 Census she was a widow and declared that she had been born in Hopton.  Could this place be the same as the modern Hope Town which is off Old Montague Street?

Hope Town is the name of the Salvation Army hostel, not of the area. The hostel opened in the 1880s and was renamed Hope Town in the 1930s.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/SA/

The census reads Hoxton. It is not an error by the enumerator, but the style of his letter x. His letter p is quite different (see Sempstress a few lines above).

Compare the letter x in the return for the OXFORD family at HO107/1548 f 297 p 30 (same enumerator). Also on this page is Jemima BOSANQUET (misindexed by Ancestry as Jemima BOLAUGUST). Her place of birth is also recorded as Hoxton.

6718
London and Middlesex / Re: St Gregory by St Paul's Parish
« on: Sunday 17 February 13 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
Many parishes in the City of London were united after the Great Fire. They shared a church, but the physical delimits of each parish were observed for administrative purposes, even though the church building had been destroyed.

Some united parishes kept combined registers, others kept separate registers. For those with separate registers, events were recorded in the appropriate register according to the parish where people lived.

As regards the physical location of burials, the parish of St Gregory by St Paul (like St Faith under St Paul's) retained the right to bury its parishioners in St Paul's churchyard.

6720
Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: surrey electoral roll look up
« on: Monday 11 February 13 23:47 GMT (UK)  »
electoral roll for me for 12 Parkhill close, carshalton 1945-1948
also 13 Benhilton Gardens, Sutton 1936-1938

I see you have asked Carshalton Library and the SHC. But have you asked Sutton Local Studies? According to their website they have the rolls from 1930 onwards. They will do research, and in my experience the staff are very helpful.

https://www.sutton.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1878

6721
London and Middlesex / Re: Overtons Poorhouse
« on: Monday 11 February 13 23:27 GMT (UK)  »
Overton's was a workhouse run by a private contractor in Mile End Green (Stepney), where some parishes would send their paupers if they didn't have space to accommodate them within the parish.

As far as I know there are no independent records for Overton's, but a few lists for individual City of London parishes that used it are held at London Metropolitan Archives (LMA).

Apparently Wanstead (in Essex) also used Overton's, according to this link (which gives you a little more information)

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42788

6722
London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Bishopsgate NE London
« on: Sunday 10 February 13 18:18 GMT (UK)  »
Seeking help with other siblings and mother of Thomas Godfrey b. abt 1831 Bishopsgate NE London. Thomas Godfrey son, died in Western Australia 1889. Father Thomas Godfrey.

The northern end of Bishopsgate is adjacent to Shoreditch, so here's a possible family for you. Please note it is only a possibility -- there may be others.

Married at St Botolph Aldgate
16 Apr 1826
Thomas Godfrey, of this parish, bachelor
Matilda Petit, of this parish, spinster
after banns
Witnesses - William Sawyer, Richard Chidley (all parties signed their names)
(Richard Chidley was the parish clerk at St Botolph Aldgate)

Baptised at St Leonard Shoreditch
15 Apr 1827
Mary, daughter of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hoxton, Gentleman
born 1 Mar 1827

8 July 1829
Thomas, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hoxton, Warehouseman
born 18 Jun 1829

21 Oct 1833
Henry, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hackney Road, Watch Maker
born 30 Sep 1833
Matilda, daughter of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hackney Road, Watch Maker
born 18 Jun 1832
(possibly buried St John the Baptist, Hoxton, 23 Aug 1835, from Hackney Road, but stated age is 4 yrs 6 mo)

26 July 1837
Charles, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hackney Road, Cabinet Maker
aged 2 wks 4 days
(possibly buried St John the Baptist, Hoxton, 14 Feb 1841, from Hackney Road, aged 4 yrs)

15 Nov 1840
Benjamin, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Hackney Road, Broker
aged 3 months, 30th Oct(obe)r [?]

23 Apr 1843
William Beckford, son of  Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Charles Street, Gentleman
born 20 July 1843

5 January 1845
Charles, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Charles Street, Gentleman
born 4 Dec 1844

15 Nov 1846
John, son of Thomas & Matilda Godfrey, Charles Street (no occupation)
born 15 Aug 1846

The occupations given for the father in the baptism register are not a perfect match, but the census returns seem to suggest this may be all one family.

1841 census
HO107/709/3 f10 p12
32 Hackney Road, Shoreditch
Thomas Godfrey, 40, Broker
Matilda Godfrey, 35
Mary Godfrey, 13
Henry Godfrey, 7
Thomas Godfrey, 12
Benjiman Godfrey, 1
John Page, 17, male servant
all born in Middlesex

1851 census
HO107/1539 f385 p26
16 Charles Street, Bethnal Green
Thomas Godfrey, Head, Mar, 53, Property in Houses, born Middlesex, Clerkenwell
Matilda Godfrey, Wife, Mar, 48, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
Mary Godfrey, Daur, Unmarried, 23, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
Thomas Godfrey, Son, Unmarried, 21, Timber Dealer, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
Henry Godfrey, Son, Unmarried, 17, Apprentice to Carver & Gilder, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
Benjamin Godfrey, Son, 11, Scholar, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
William Godfrey, Son, 9, Scholar, born Middlesex ,Shoreditch
Charles Godfrey, Son, 6, Scholar, born Middlesex, Bethnal Green
John Godfrey, Son, 2, born Middlesex, Bethnal Green

Buried at St John, Hackney
2 Nov 1853
Matilda Godfrey, Charles Street, Hackney Road, aged 50

Married at West Hackney Parish Church
7 October 1858
Thomas Godfrey, full age, widower, builder, West Hackney. Father - Thomas Godfrey (dec.), Watch Maker
Emma Roundacre, full age, spinster, West Hackney. Father - William Roundacre (dec.), Maltster
after banns
Witnesses - William Pickering, Eliza Milford (or Mitford?)

1861 census
RG9/160 f31 p55
5 Oriall Road, Hackney
Thomas Godfrey, Head, Mar, 60, Retired Timber Merchant, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Emma Godfrey, Wife, Mar, 53, born Wickham Market, Suffolk
Benjamin Godfrey, Son, Unm, 20 Painter (House), born Shoreditch, Middlesex
Mary A Roundacre, Niece, Unm, 14, born Walton, Suffolk

I daresay there is more to be found.

Do any of the above names or occupations strike any bells? Any more information you may have on Thomas GODFREY from his marriage or death certificate in Australia, or even his children's names, might help determine whether the above is the right family.

6723
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: A little latin - Nonas Maii
« on: Saturday 09 February 13 18:23 GMT (UK)  »
having died on the 9th of May
May I suggest that Vulgrinus died on 3 May -- v Nonas Maii -- i.e. 5 days before the Nones.

According to the Roman Calendar, in the month of May the Nones fell on the 7th day (rather than the 9th), and the back-calculation must include the days at each end.

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