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Bill, you're not the only one to come to this conclusion with the lineup.  In fact I had an email from Damien about 10 days ago with exactly the same lineup! 

I do think that Allison is fourth from the left, there is a smillarity to his University photo.  Also a newspaper cutting supplied by the University states that Allison was an "instructor in air bombing and aircraft recognition"  He was the oldest at 28 and maybe was training at the time of the crash.

I did have some information kindly posted by Harry who supplied the following:

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A note about the aircraft used by the training and conversion units.Quite often these aircraft would have seen front line service but because of their age and operational background they would be aircraft that had been overhauled or repaired from previous operational incidents.Their engines may have been repaired and overhauled a number of times.Consequently their performance may have been less than those aircraft in squadron service.However in this particular case the Wellington had been withdrawn from Bomber Command front line service for about a year and had been relegated to training although the RAF were still receiving them as per aircraft company individual contract.It is only by researching an individual aircraft by its RAF unique serial number would the history of an aircraft be revealed.

In this particular case,No 22 OTU lost three aircraft all with engine problems.Being a two engined aircraft,losing one on the Wellington imposed an extra burden on the pilot even if he was experienced.Being an OTU pilot,control of the aircraft would have represented a high work load for him and his navigator especially flying at night over mountainous country.

Overall,a tragic loss of nine RCAF airmen in training accidents which were prominent throughout the flying training courses in the Second World War.



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Prue

The shoulder badge means he was RAF, the words "Canada" do not appear above it so it appears he may not of been amongst the crew.  The badge would be on each shoulder...both would face backwards hence the 2 different facing patches.




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Bob Schwarts has kindly given me permission to post some photographs from his website, he also has some information regarding the shoulder insigina.

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They were worn by all ranks underneath Warrant Officers, i.e from Aircraftman Second Class (AC2), through AC1, LAC, Corporal, Sergeant, and finally Flight-Sergeant. 

The eagles are meant to be worn in pairs, with the both of the eagles facing backward. The unofficial translation of the RAF motto, "We have eyes everywhere", refers to the fact the wearer's own eyes are facing forward in combination with the eyes of the eagles that are facing rearwards


There is also a picture of the Canadian badge. 

The eagle-eyed amongst you (no pun intended!) will hopefully know much more.

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Armed Forces / SOLVED - RCAF or RAF, can you idenitfy the uniform??
« on: Sunday 20 November 05 21:47 GMT (UK)  »
Bob Schwarts has kindly given me permission to post one of his photographs from his web site.

The shoulder insignia of an Eagle which looks similar to the one in my picture.  The site says also states the following:

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They were worn by all ranks underneath Warrant Officers, i.e from Aircraftman Second Class (AC2), through AC1, LAC, Corporal, Sergeant, and finally Flight-Sergeant. 

The eagles are meant to be worn in pairs, with the both of the eagles facing backward. The unofficial translation of the RAF motto, "We have eyes everywhere", refers to the fact the wearer's own eyes are facing forward in combination with the eyes of the eagles that are facing rearwards

There is also a picture of the Canadian badge. 

The eagle-eyed amongst you (no pun intended!) will hopefully know much more.

Thanks
Caroline

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Armed Forces / CRAF or RAF, can you idenitfy the uniform??
« on: Sunday 20 November 05 21:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

RAF or CRAF?

If you have knowledge of Air Force uniforms and badges, please read on.

I've recently placed a posting on Rootschat regarding a photograph found in 1944.  It's become a lengthy posting and I'm trying to separate some of the findings and queries raised

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,101535.165.html

I have attached a scanned photograph of the buttons and badge.  We are trying to work out if the uniform is RCAF or RAF.  I cannot see Canada on the shoulder.  Is it possible that the man may have been in the Canadian Air Force but as he was serving in the UK he didn't necessarily have a Canadian badge?

All help, tips and comments are appreciated.

Regards
Caroline

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I've scanned the buttons and shoulder badge at a higher resolution.  RCAF or RAF?  Are there any clues to the type of squad such as air gunner, navagator etc?

Regards
Caroline

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The original scan at 1200dpi was too large for it to be downloaded so it had to be resized.  I've since split up the photographs so they can both load at 1200.  The crown and bird can easily be identified along with the insignia.  Looks like RAF for sure, well spotted Bill.



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