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I've been researching Joyce Bothamley, born in 1848 at Dogsthorpe near Peterborough.  She was a twin to Jane Bothamley.  I've got her on the 51, 71, 81 etc etc.  However, I cannot for the life of me find her on the 61, nor her sister.  They both would have been 13 and presumably at school.

The only possible I have found is Joyce Jane Bishoff (actually, it is probably Bishop when you look closely) at the Central District School in Hanwell which was part of the workhouse.  Is this my Joyce and Jane do you think - 2 people rolled into one and given the wrong surname?  (Note, no birthplace).  And why would they be in the workhouse when their father was farming 356 acres and employing a load of people?

Certainly by 1870 (when she marries) Joyce's address was given as being St Peter's Pimlico.  However, in 1871 Census she was back at the parental home and described as unmarried.


Any suggestions, please?  Apart from the fact that they were a hugely dysfunctional family (1 bigamist, 1 fantasist and murder victim etc etc).

Not sure whether to post this in photos or technology, so I plumped for here.  Sorry Mods if you want to move it.

I have a couple of photocopied pictures from the late 1890s/probably the turn of the century.  (I have posted them on here and had some incredibly useful responses).  I have now acquired some pictures from the 1930s.  I am trying to analyse whether a couple I can identify on a 1934 picture appear on the much earlier ones. Clearly, however, they have aged 35 years!

Is there any facial recognition or aging software that is FREE (this ridiculous hobby already costs me a small fortune) that people would recommend, please?

Can anyone put a date on this, please?

I cant help with the size of the photo because I just have an A4 photocopy.

There is another (later I think) picture of the family here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=684642.msg5289176#msg5289176 if that helps.

TIA

Just thought I would update this one.  THanks to everyone who responded.  We have now had confirmation that the NA have opened the record for Mr BM.

I requested a quote for copying (and made certain to specify it was just info relating to him I wanted).  The quote?  A whopping £455!  Apparently there are 350 pages.  Is this normal?!

Hi Philip

Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to reply.  I do think what you said was interesting.  Thank you very much for your expertise.

I hadnt considered that it may have been written locally for a church/ magazine etc.  I think we are going to have to seek an expert's view at a museum.  It is lovely that it is in the family, but if it is genuine, we would like it to have a wider audience.