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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Callear/Callier/Gallear/Gallier - are you related?
« on: Monday 21 January 13 17:48 GMT (UK)  »
I am a Callear (based in Staffordshire) and I've currently  traced my family tree back to the early 1800s.

I am finding that the surname appears to change as I look to trace my ancestory back further and/or as I look to explore some of their other decendents (aka not my direct branch).

Do you recognise Callear in your tree (Staffordshire/Shropshire area) or maybe one of the many variants? Have you too made this connection?

Si

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Where are you searching? I'm a newbie and trying to find a few trusted sources of information.

I have been using findmypast.com as I can get scanned copies of the census records and BMD records.

(and thank you!)

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Hi Rambler,

What if any is your connection to the Gallear/Callear family?

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I've hit a stumbling block with Robert and Eliza too.

1861 census (High Street Sedgley)
Robert Callear ~20
Eliza Callear ~21

1871 census
Robert Gallier ~30
Eliza Gallier ~31
Elizabeth ~ 11
.....

Q. If these two families are connected and Elizabeth is 11 - then where was she in 1861?  I can only find the registration of a birth of an Elizabeth Gallear in 1860 (Dudley).

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I'm still struggling to locate James (wife Ann or kids Thomas and Mary Ann) in the 1881 census and beyond!!  ???

Just how liberal do I need to be with the surname?  ::)

There is a strong chance the kids will have left home: Thomas (~22) and Mary Ann (~21).

I am drawing a blank search with the parents name and several spellings on the surname.

For reference, I am using findmypast.com - I do not know how good the 'include variants' search option is - can any comment?

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Wow - thanks for that - there is plenty to keep me busy!

I have also managed to locate Solomon on the 1821 census for Dawley Magna. Surname is Callier and he is living with his parents Robert and Mary.

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Hi Maureen,

Firstly thanks for you're reply.

I've managed to stay true to my surname as far back as Solomon and his children - the surname differs so much at this point.

I have a copy of some microfiches that contain records of christenings and marriages. The entries for Solomon's marriage and the christenings of his three boys all show different surnames:

Callear
Calleer
Callier
Collier

For the first time (remember I'm a newbie) I have to have a keep of faith and not follow hard facts. How confident can I be if surnames do not match or change - maybe that was the norm 200 years ago(?)

I had hoped that by tracing either James or Robert forwards, I could determine whether their descendants are Callears or something different. Like I originally posted, they (along with families) seem to fade away to nothinhg :o(

Another hope was that they had also moved to the Stoke area (like my branch of the tree). There are more Callears currently living around stick whom I can not connect to my branch.

This geneology thing is so addictive!!

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I've tried searching with a few of the regular variants but I can't find anything that fits.

Solomon's surname seems to appear as various spellings (but always with a 'C').

I've hit a slight bottleneck in the I can not trace Solomon backwards (he was born circa 1813 in Sedgley and married an Elizabeth - possibly onions).

I figured if I can not go backwards then I'd explorer a couple of his other children - hence Robert and James. That soon hit a similar bottleneck.

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Newbie seeks help  ???

According to the 1841 census,  James (b. 1835) and Robert (b. 1841) are sons of my great-great-great-great-grandfather Solomon Callear.

1841 - Dawley Green, Dawley, Magna
CALLIER, Solomon - M - 25 - 1816 - Shropshire
CALLIER, Elizth - F - 25 - 1816 - Shropshire
CALLIER, James **- M - 5- 1836 - Shropshire
CALLIER, Samuel - M - 3 - 1838 - Shropshire  **My branch**
CALLIER, Robert **- M0 (9 months) - 1841 - Shropshire

I can find Robert in the 1861 census living at High Street Sedgley - but nothing more (a wife but no kids). Did he simply disappear?

I can find James in the 1861 and 1871 census living at Sedgley - albeit with different wives (Martha then Ann)!?! But again nothing more - not even his kids.


Does anyone recognise either name? Looking for any help to sketch out the descendents of these to ancestors.

Thanks in advance (and fingers-crossed!)

Si

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