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England / parents of Mary Cousens Taylor b.1865 St George in the East
« on: Tuesday 21 January 20 08:39 GMT (UK)  »
I'm looking for the parents of the above lady. This is the spelling when her birth was registered (GRO), mmn Greaves.
On her marriage certificate (in Ancestry) her father is named as John Taylor, case maker. Her address is given as Bethnal Green and middle name spelt as Couzins.
Possible siblings are James Taylor, b.1859 St George (mmn Greaves) and Fanny Elizabeth b.1871 Whitechapel (mmn Greaves)
I just can't find her on any census! Hope someone can help, please.

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From what you have all found out, it looks as if Julia Hannah Butler was married to Robert Richard Rutland in 1866. They had Hannah Eliza Martha in 1867. BUT I can't find a death for Robert Rutland.
Then in 1872 she married Thomas Dyar (I can't find this marriage in Ancestry). I also can't find Hannah Eliza Martha on the 1871 census.
If her real father was Robert Rutland  and her stepfather was Thomas Dyer, it would explain the entry on her marriage cert.
I'm happy with that explanation. Thanks, folks. As usual you have bee brilliant!

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You are right about Benjamin's birth.
In 1871 I have Thomas Dyer, carman,  living 13 Mary St, Shadwell, lodging with a fellow carman, Thomas Devalient and family. I'm pretty sure this is right as Thomas's sister Elisabeth married a Thomas Devalient in 1888.
It seems that Thomas's mother, Eliza, nee Linscott, died in Stepney Workhouse in 1870, and his father James, died in 1874 in Whitechapel. It looks like they had fallen on hard times.
Thanks for the additional child, Thomas. No, I can't find a registration for Eliza, just a reference to her on the 1881 census. Perhaps an 'honorary' daughter.
It's possible the family may have been nonconformists. Maybe that's why the marriages were not officially registered

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I am looking for a marriage between the above named people. Julia appears on the censuses as Hannah.
Their children were Eliza b.1867, Benjamin b.1874, Emma, b. 1876, Louisa b.1878, Thomas b.1880, Hannah b.1882, John b.1886 and Robert Henry b.1888, all born in Shadwell or Southwark.
I have the family in 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891.
I'm also looking for the marriage of Thomas's parents James Dyer b.1802 Shadwell and Eliza Linscott b.1807 Dagenham. They had 7 children between 1830 and 1850 and lived in Shadwell.
If anyone could help, I'd be very grateful.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Louise Lowe b.1901 Aston Manor, Warks
« on: Friday 13 December 19 13:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the clarification for William (of the will)! Too many people with the same name!
Great that you found a wife for Henry Morris (father Thomas, packing case maker). Glad to be able to eliminate him.
The only conclusion I can see is that William Lane and Henry Morris are the same person. Charlotte said the marriage to both men (one described on the marriage certificate and the other on the 1911 census) took place in 1904, and I can find no marriage between her and a Henry Morris. Could the enumerator have got the names wrong? Or could she have deliberately concealed her husband's real name, for what ever reason.  I guess we'll never know. But thank you so much for eliminating some of the options. As they don't appear to have had any children, it really doesn't make a difference to the lineage.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Louise Lowe b.1901 Aston Manor, Warks
« on: Friday 13 December 19 06:38 GMT (UK)  »
There is a problem with William Lane and Charlotte in 1901. Charlotte's first husband George Lowe didn't die till 1902. In the posting about Louise, 'Girl Guide' found Charlotte and George in Hunters Vale, Birmingham (from Family Search) with their 5 children. Have you looked at the 1911 census, Roger? That's where the mystery is.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Louise Lowe b.1901 Aston Manor, Warks
« on: Thursday 12 December 19 15:56 GMT (UK)  »
I am now looking at Louise's mother and have also come up again a problem.
Her mother was born Charlotte Watton in 1859 in Aston, nr Birmingham.
HER parents were Thomas Watton (b.1825 Yardley, Worcs) and Emma Britton (b.1829, B'ham).
When Thomas Watton died in 1861, Emma married Thomas Morris in 1862, with whom she had  Emma Morris, b.1863 and Henry Morris, b.1865.
Her daughter Charlotte (b.1859) married George Lowe in 1878 (B'ham) and had 7 children with him. When George died in 1902, Charlotte married William Lane (b.1865, B'ham). This marriage certificate can be seen on line in Ancestry.
The problem arises in the 1911 census, when Charlotte is living at 12 Ash Rd, Saltley, B'ham with 3 of her children from her first marriage, Henry, Maud and Louisa Lowe, but she is now Charlotte Morris, married 7 years previously. Her husband is Henry Morris who fits all the criteria of her half brother!
I can find no death for William Lane and am at a loss to explain what is going on. Can anyone help, please?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Louise Lowe b.1901 Aston Manor, Warks
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 14:31 GMT (UK)  »
As usual, you are all brilliant! I think you've cracked it. Thank you so much.
Kind regards and Happy Christmas!

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Family History Beginners Board / Louise Lowe b.1901 Aston Manor, Warks
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 10:30 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the family of the above person.
On the 1939 register, her birthday is given as Jan 28th 1901.
She was married in 1918 to Albert Fife in Aston, but divorced him.
Then she married George Elliman in Luton in 1937. On this marriage certificate her father is given as George Lowe, grinder, deceased. I have this certificate and the witnesses are F Elliman and William Jones (not helpful).
I can find no trace of her in 1901 or 1911, and no George Lowe that seems to match.
I'd be very grateful for some help. Thanks

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