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Graveyards and Gravestones / Does this seem odd to you? It did to me
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 20:37 BST (UK)  »
My great x3 grandfather was a shepherd, in a little village in Huntingdonshire.

On my first visit to the village, I found his grave ... right slap bang in the middle of the old burial ground, with one of the largest memorial stones there and a lengthy (and still almost completely legible) inscription.

This struck me as ... well ... not what one would expect of a humble shepherd.

Then again, his son was coachman at the manor house, which was owned by an elderly spinster, the daughter of a general of ancient and distinguished lineage. It makes me wonder whether it was my family that paid for the memorial stone, or hers ...

World War One / Re: Great War service records
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 20:32 BST (UK)  »
Forester -

Thank you. That is a very helpful link.

Ladyhawk -

Many thanks. That is all very interesting. What sites did you visit to extract this information? I have other great grandfathers' service records to try to trace as well, and rather than simply leaning on you guys to dig them all out for me, I'm anxious to learn the places to go looking so I can find them for myself.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Naming children after dead sibling.
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Lots of examples of this in my family, too

Family History Beginners Board / Re: newbie saying hello
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 20:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Macie.

I'm new, too - but so far I've been overwhelmed by the kindness and helpfulness of the other posters here.

Shane -

You have a name (James Price) and you have an approximate year of birth which you can calculate from the census entries (1875). The census entries should also tell you the place of birth (although this is not always accurate!)

You also have an approximate year of marriage (1896) and you know the full name of his bride (Annie Bagguley)

James Price is going to be a difficult name to track as there will be a lot of them about, so I would start by trying to tie down the place of the marriage. I use findmypast rather than the search site you use, but I am sure they are much the same.

Once you have the marriage location, this should help you to know where to look for the 1891 census entry. It is not infallible, but it is a guide - assume that he probably lived nearby, and see if you can pick him up by searching in the 1891 census for a James Price born in 1875 give or take a couple of years and living close to the place of marriage.

If you cannot find a likely looking candidate in the census, then attack it the other way - go back and search the register of births for James Prices born in the birth place offered you by the census entries in 1875 give or take a year or two, and then see if you can follow him (and his parents) forward through the census. If there are other children in the household coming up to marriagable age, see if you can pick up their marriages too, just to be sure the family hasn't relocated to Cornwall or anything daft.

I suspect with James Price, however, your problem is going to be that you will have too many likely candidates, not too few.

To deal with these you've got to examine the other members of the households, and try to trace the households through the census, and see if you can account for them and rule them out one by one. It can be a time-consuming and laborious process, and sometimes you simply cannot narrow it down. But the clues can be in the unlikeliest of places. In much later censuses you sometimes get an elderly relative, or a visitor who looks like the wife's sister, which gives you a maiden name. That can sometimes enable you to match a later census entry which is definitely NOT your forebear to an earlier census entry of somebody by the same name, thereby enabling you to rule them out. In this way, one by one, you can narrow the field until the last man standing has to be your forebear ... probably!

All the best, and enjoy your research. The ones that turn out to be false leads can often be the most enjoyable. I spent a long time investigating a presumed forebear who had been born in Brazil ... but he turned out not to be my forebear at all. But it was fun while it lasted ...

World War One / Re: Great War service records
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 06:57 BST (UK)  »
Carole -

Many thanks for that. Hmmmm ... I guess the photograph must show him in "number 1" uniform. Would that have looked (to the untrained eye) like an officer's uniform?

Now, here are the really important follow-up questions:

1. Where do I go to find the resource that you have just searched?

2. There are two regimental numbers there ... does that mean you have found two people called "Frank W Hardwick" and that one or other of them was presumably my great grandfather; or does it mean that we have one man with two numbers (and if so, can anyone explain why the same person would have two numbers)?

World War One / Great War service records
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 22:58 BST (UK)  »
OK - so I understand that the vast majority of Great War service records were lost in the Blitz ... what I don't have any insight into is what resources are available to try to find out about somebody who you KNOW served in the Great War, but about whom you can find nothing.

I had a great grandfather, Frank Whitney Hardwick. He lived in Tunbridge Wells. He went to war. He came back again.

We have a photograph of him in what looks like an officer's uniform of the Royal West Kents (the cap badge is definitely RWK).

But ... that is all I have so far.

Presumably there are war diaries and things ... and there might be a mention in there. But are they available in searchable digital format, or is it a case of turning pages the old fashioned way?

Do I need to know which battalion in order to have a hope?

Do I go and talk to the nice people at the IWM? Or the National Army Museum? Or twist the arm of my cousin who is on the staff at RMA Sandhurst to have a word with the archivist? Or ...

Well, what would you do??

The Lighter Side / Re: Newbie saying "Hi"
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 19:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the welcome, guys.

I can't begin to tell ya how good it felt to run out of parish records while still researching a line with no tentative or dubious links (that was Richard Peacock, my mother's father's mother's mother's father's mother's mother's father's father's mother's mother's father's father's father's father  8)  ). Then again, I doubt I need to tell you. You probably all know that already  :)

The Lighter Side / Newbie saying "Hi"
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 19:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi -

There doesn't seem to be an "introduce yourself" section (or if there is, my research skills aren't up to finding it  ::) ) so I thought I'd say "hi" here.

I'm not new to the family history game; but I AM quite new to doing it online. And I'm more than a little blown away by the power of the search tools available. You can just do SO MUCH MORE than in the days when you had to look the paper records up, one by one. And the best of it is the searches that produce "nil" returns. The computer will give you this in a matter of seconds, where it used to takes days and days, and even then you'd have this nagging doubt that maybe there WAS something there, if only you'd looked a bit longer.

So thanks to the wonders of modern technology, I now know:

both parents
all 4 grandparents
all 8 great grandparents
14 out of 16 great x2 grandparents
23 out of 32 great x3 grandparents (including the fact that one of them spent some time in a lunatic asylum  :o :o )
29 out of 64 great x4 grandparents
24 out of 128 great x5 grandparents
15 out of 256 great x6 grandparents
17 out of 512 great x7 grandparents
11 out of 1,024 great x8 grandparents
5 out of 2,048 great x9 grandparents
3 out of 4,096 great x10 grandparents
4 out of 8,192 great x11 grandparents
2 out of 16,384 great x12 grandparents
1 out of 32,768 great x13 grandparents (who was buried soon after the keeping of registers of baptisms, marriages and burials became mandatory in 1538)

OK ... so there's still a whole lot of holes there. But it's far more than I'd ever DREAMED of being able to achieve 20 years ago ... and I'm confident of being able to get a whole lot more identified in time.

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