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Hi Nell and Rena

Thanks for your responses. Horsepool road at Connor Downs seems a promising lead as it is in the area of Penwith. Presumably there was a pool there at one time. 

The Breage Horsepool is also a contender but does not seem to be on modern maps as there is no map reference for it on Genuki Breage pages.

I feel I'm getting closer. Time to look for some old maps.

Thank you to all responders.

Venelow
Canada

Dear Cousins:

 "Born South of the Horsepool"

This is a phrase I first heard 45 years ago, made by an inhabitant of West Cornwall who was born before WWI.

I have Googled the phrase to no effect.

I take it to mean people born in a very specific area, possibly West Penwith or the Penwith Peninsular.

Does anyone else recall this phrase?  Where was the Horsepool exactly?

Venelow
Canada

I am posting this to the Common Room as multiple locations could be involved.

James Tonkin and Elizabeth Midlen gave their son William (bpt. 1796 Paul, Cornwall)  his mother's name as a middle name. Due to people being, illiterate, unsure of spelling, hard of hearing etc. his name was rendered as William Middling Tonkin. Elizabeth's father was actually William Medlyn so the name has many variations.

William Middling / Medlin had a child, Julia Jane, baptized at St Mary's Penzance on Jan 28 1831. His name is recorded as William Medlin Tonkin and the child's mother is called Rachel. It is recorded that Julia Jane Tonkin was born on 22 Oct 1829. The place of birth is not mentioned. When the baptism took place the family were living in Penzance and her father's occupation was Master Mariner.

In 1841 William and Rachel are living in St Helier, Jersey. Both 45 years old and he is a Seaman. There is a Julia in the household but she does not have the same surname and is too old to be their daughter who should only be about 11 or 12 years old.  Have to assume that Julia Jane Tonkin is deceased or living elsewhere.

In 1851 Rachel Tonkin is living alone in St Helier, Jersey aged 56years old and is a widow.  A database of Master Mariners for Jersey states William Tonkin lost at sea on the Zibiah 1851.

I am looking for the marriage of William Middling/ Midlen/ Medlyn/  TONKIN to Rachel UNKNOWN and also the death of Julia Jane Tonkin or her marriage if some how she was not with her parents in 1841.

Hope someone can help.

Venelow
Canada

 To Malcom:

Easter Eggs.

Ven.

I was under the impression that Ancestry will automatically hide living persons entered into online trees so typing in one's own name and DOB is unlikely to produce a result unless someone has marked a living person as dead. Not sure if I am correct about this as I never put living people on my Ancestry Trees and usually stop two generations back from the eldest generation of currently living persons.

However, I know there are trees on Ancestry that have my parents' names but they are both deceased. A general search of all records for my name and YOB will produce only my GRO birth index reference. So I am always amused when Gemma Woollard and Louise Abbey find their families so easily.

The ads themselves do convey a good sense of where tracing one's ancestors might lead, even to the ultimate brick wall of the foundling child. (I have one of those in my tree)

However, like most advertising there is an element of not being completely straight forward about the situation - but hey, got to get people to try the product.

It's just a pity that so many do not bother with the very good advice that Ancestry has on how to do genealogy by proving ancestors and how to avoid pitfalls and errors that others might copy. I see too many trees where it is obvious the owner has either not looked at the record they have linked to or does not have the capacity to analyze the information contained therein.

Venelow