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There is also this marriage online which could be another daughter

Name   Gwenllian Elias
Marriage Age   Full Age, spinster
Marriage Date   14 May 1838
Marriage Place   Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Both living Rhymney
Father   Elias Elias - miner
Spouse   Richard Jones
Witness - Daniel Elias - Sarah Jones
All made their mark.

From census Gwenllian born c1818 Bedwellty

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Possible marriage - image online

Name   Elias Elias
Marriage Date   17 Sep 1814
Marriage Place   Llangynidr, Breconshire, Wales
Residence Place   Bedwellty county of Monmouth
Spouse   Jane Jones - of this parish
Both made their mark
Witness - John Davies - Jane Thomas

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Some baptisms of children seems the family were independent denomination

Transcription only

All at - Rhymney Iron Works, Sion Chapel (Ind) Bapts 1821-1837

Date   22 Jul 1821
Parent's Surname   ELIAS
Child's forename(s)   Daniel
Father's forename(s)   Elias
Mother's forename(s)   Jane
Type of Event   Baptism
Residence   Parish of Bedwellty
(Father's) Occupation   Miner
Officiating Minister   David Stephenson
Memoranda in register   Born 16 Oct 1820   
Gwent record office register ref. number   RG4/1248
Parish register page no.   4

Date   23 Feb 1823
Parent's Surname   ELIAS
Child's forename(s)   Ann
Father's forename(s)   Elias
Mother's forename(s)   Jane
Mother's surname (if different)   
Type of Event   Baptism
Residence   Parish of Bedwellty
(Father's) Occupation   Miner
Officiating Minister   David Stephenson
Memoranda in register   Born 2 Feb 1823
Gwent record office register ref. number RG4/1248
Parish register page no.   6


Date   8 Aug 1825
Parent's Surname   ELIAS
Child's forename(s)   Ann
Father's forename(s)   Elias
Mother's forename(s)   Jane
Type of Event   Baptism
Residence   
(Father's) Occupation   
Officiating Minister   
Memoranda in register   Born 20 Jul 1825
Transcriber's Notes   
Gwent record office register ref. number   RG4/1248
Parish register page no.   7

Date   28 Jan 1828
Parent's Surname   ELIAS
Child's forename(s)   David
Father's forename(s)   Elias
Mother's forename(s)   Jane
Type of Event   Birth
Residence   Parish of Bidwellty
(Father's) Occupation   Miner
Officiating Minister   
Memoranda in register   Baptised with water on [blank]
Transcriber's Notes   Baptism date not given
Gwent record office register ref. number   RG4/1248
Parish register page no.   9

Date   24 Oct 1830
Parent's Surname   ELIAS
Child's forename(s)   Elias
Father's forename(s)   Elias
Mother's forename(s)   Jane
Type of Event   Baptism
Residence   Parish of Bedwellty
(Father's) Occupation   Miner
Officiating Minister   John Davies
Memoranda in register   Born 20 Aug 1830
Gwent record office register ref. number   RG4/1248   
Parish register page no.   20

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Bedwellty - contains the chapelry of Rhymney

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: No birth certificate that I can find
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 02:01 BST (UK)  »
Well done John & Shaun, there must be some connection to have the address on his Army file.

I think this is a possible birth reg

JAKES, MARY  ELIZABETH  mmn   PORTSMOUTH 
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in WAKEFIELD UNION  Volume 09C  Page

Name   Mary Elizabeth Jacques
Baptism Date   19 Oct 1873
Baptism Place   Normanton, All Saints, Yorkshire, England
Father   William Jacques - miner
Mother   Emma Jacques
Abode- Altofts

Marriages Mar Q 1871   same page
EVANS    Thomas    Dudley    6c   42
HARRIS    Mary        Dudley    6c   42   
Jakes    William        Dudley    6c   42    
PORTSMOUTH    Emma        Dudley    6c   42

1881 for family
Altofts - reg district Wakefield
Piece 4573, Folio   114, Page number 54

William Jacques 35 Head, Dudley Worcestershire
Emma Jacques 31 Wife "
Elizabeth Jacques   8   Daughter Altofts
John H. Jacques 4 Son "
Amos Jacques 2 Son "
Pricilla Jacques Daughter  " - also married an O Neil

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Normanton - around 10 miles from Barnsley

1939 register has Mary E O'Neill dob 22 Aug 1872 with married daughter Winifred Churchill still in Whickham.

1901 John O Neill is with wife Jane, and children James & Agnes. Jane dies 1903

No sign yet of John b 1891 ???

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: No birth certificate that I can find
« on: Saturday 20 April 24 21:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi John...Info from Anc.. image online.

Name   John Edward Jakes
Age   0
Record Type   Baptism
Birth Date   15 Oct 1891
Baptism Date   3 Nov 1891
Baptism Place   Wakefield, St Mary, Yorkshire, England
Father   Frederick Jakes. No occupation given, struck through
Mother   Elizabeth Jakes

Abode was Union Workhouse

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6565413:2252

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Warwickshire / Re: matilda mayes/masey
« on: Saturday 20 April 24 00:56 BST (UK)  »
Are you looking at the correct census?

The one I viewed in 1871 has her born Birmingham. She has her first 3 sons with her that are the same as family in 1881.  Previous page is as Neale mentioned family of Thomas Mayes. Sis in law Eliza Mayes has born Middlesex, cannot comment as did not trace extended family.

Family is Morton on other records. Look for Albert Moreton age 2 son born Birmingham

1871 - Birmingham - Piece 3111, Folio   35, Page number   36

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Travelling People / Re: Agnes Williams
« on: Friday 19 April 24 19:25 BST (UK)  »
There is this possible. Tree on Anc has the parents moving USA.

Name   Biram Young Lock
Baptism Age   0
Record Type   Baptism
Birth Date   5 Aug 1847
Baptism Date   10 Aug 1847
Baptism Place   Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father   Stephen Lock - basket maker & gypsy
Mother   Ann Lock

Birth?
LOCK, BINAM  YOUNG  mmn   WOODS 
GRO Reference: 1847  S Quarter in BRIDGEND AND COWBRIDGE  Volume 26  Page 338

Also a possible seaman's record ?

Name   Byram Locke
Birth Date   27 Jul 1849
Birth Place   Twinney, Glamorghanshire
Service Number   29463A
URL   http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7917888

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Travelling People / Re: Agnes Williams
« on: Friday 19 April 24 17:27 BST (UK)  »
In case you don't already have..seems the connection you mention is Lock.

Quite a few hints for family in USA 1880 ish, no access to check, just have UK

Possible - 1861- Aberdare, Glamorgan
Piece   4065, Folio   27, Page number   48

Elijah William 23 Head, basket maker, Pontyprydd Glam
Agnes William   23   Wife Bridgenorth, Shropshire
Elijah William 2 Son Aberdare - (1858 Merthyr registration gives mmn Lock)
Elizabeth William 1mth Daughter, Aberdare
Elizabeth Lock 64 Alverstone, Gloucestershire Lodger
Byrim Lock 12 Grandson Maesteg Glam

Possible baptism for Agnes Lock.  Quatt Malvern is south of Bridgenorth

Name   Agnes Locke
Baptism Date   24 May 1835
Baptism Place   Quatt, Shropshire, England
Religion   Anglican
Father   Matthew Locke
Mother   Elizabeth Locke
Page number   37
Reference Number   P226/A/2/1

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: No birth certificate that I can find
« on: Friday 19 April 24 14:37 BST (UK)  »
There is also this record that has same service number, it has a few notes in front dated 1941, maybe someone with military knowledge can explain. Also transferred from Labour Corps to RFA in 1919 I think?

Name   John Jacques
Gender   Male
Relationship to Soldier   Self (Head)
Number of Images   12
Form Title   Other

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t4i/

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