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The Common Room / Re: Duplicate Ceremonies in Two Locations
« on: Thursday 27 February 14 10:48 GMT (UK)  »
Marriages are not registered by individuals but by the church in which the ceremony was conducted.  The usual reason for this confusion is banns being recorded by transcibers as actual marriages.

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I was being pedantic.  However each of the various parts of a coat of arms leads to details of the genealogy of the family concerned.  The shield is usually the most interesting, as in your case for example it shows a marriage between two families each of which had its own coat of arms. The sinister, right hand side as viewed coming from the wife's family.  If the "shield" is diamond shaped, it belongs to a woman.  Other shapes vary with the age of the shield.  The motto and crest often come from the more powerful family, although they may be changed later in the history of the family due to other marriages etc.  The helmet or crown will show the rank of person bearing the coat of arms.  Similarly the inclusion of supporters in a coat of arms is only granted to people of higher rank, that is peers and certain higher ranked knights like knights of the garter.

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Not quite a full coat of arms as there is no motto or helmet.  At least one of which would normally be expected.

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The Lighter Side / Re: WDYTYA USA New Series Starting Tonight!
« on: Thursday 20 February 14 10:34 GMT (UK)  »
I find the lack of genealogy a little frustrating.  For example it was obvious in this latest episode that one of the other signaturies to one of the documents that they presented was also probably a relative but this wasn't even mentioned even though they had the mother's surname.

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The crucial thing is that you record the information that you do have, preferably in pencil on the back of the photographs.  Remember that while you may be able to identify the people in a photograph the next generation probably can't.

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The Lighter Side / Re: WDYTYA USA New Series Starting Tonight!
« on: Wednesday 05 February 14 12:47 GMT (UK)  »
The problem with links to Charlemagne is that depending on which history book you read you will find different links from English Royalty back to Charlemagne.  What I found surprising was that they didn't pick up Cahrlemagne's ancestors for which there are links back to the Romans, but perhaps they found a number of different ones and didn't know which to use.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Coat of Arms ??
« on: Wednesday 05 February 14 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at the published crests, as distinct from the full coats of arms, at least two Cheshire lines of Birkenheads have crests, one of them from Backford.  These crests would have been on top of the helmet in the full coat of arms.

David

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Occupation Interests / Re: Marshmen
« on: Thursday 30 January 14 13:42 GMT (UK)  »
Stan's description can also be extended to include looking after animals put out to graze on the marshland for the season.

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Occupation Interests / Re: "laborer in colorworks"
« on: Thursday 30 January 14 13:37 GMT (UK)  »
Other dictionaries also extend Stan's list to include a shopkeeper who sells paints.

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