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Shropshire / Re: Highway robbery 1843
« on: Tuesday 13 April 21 13:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks, heywood. I’ve just looked at my tree again and the elder Richard was born about 1806 - not 1809. Do you think it’s him?
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Shropshire / Highway robbery 1843
« on: Tuesday 13 April 21 13:13 BST (UK) »
I have found a newspaper article from “Eddowes’ Journal and General Advertiser for Shropshire” which is dated 29 March 1843. It gives details about a case involving Richard North who was indicted for assaulting and robbing a lady named Prudence Parker near Dawley. He was acquitted. This man is definitely related to me but the only problem is there are two Richard Norths in my tree who fit the time and place.
They were first cousins, once removed as they shared a grandparent and great grandparent in William North and his wife Sarah Brant.
The elder Richard North was born 1809 in Dawley and was the son of Christopher and Letitia North. In 1841, he was living in Malinslee with his wife Ann and children and was employed as a miner. He later became a charter master and died at Old Park in 1868.
The younger alternative is Richard North, born 1821 in Dawley, the son of John and Julia North. In 1841, he was living in Malinslee with his parents and siblings. He married Eliza in 1846 and spent most of his adult life in and out of asylums.
Can anyone suggest a way of finding the age or any other details about the indicted Richard?
They were first cousins, once removed as they shared a grandparent and great grandparent in William North and his wife Sarah Brant.
The elder Richard North was born 1809 in Dawley and was the son of Christopher and Letitia North. In 1841, he was living in Malinslee with his wife Ann and children and was employed as a miner. He later became a charter master and died at Old Park in 1868.
The younger alternative is Richard North, born 1821 in Dawley, the son of John and Julia North. In 1841, he was living in Malinslee with his parents and siblings. He married Eliza in 1846 and spent most of his adult life in and out of asylums.
Can anyone suggest a way of finding the age or any other details about the indicted Richard?
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Denbighshire / Re: Two possible baptisms for Catherine
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 18:31 BST (UK) »
Her daughters were Eleanor, Jane and Sarah. Sons were Isaac and Robert.
She was married at Llansannan to Morris Roberts in 1790. Maybe this is the church her family used?
She was married at Llansannan to Morris Roberts in 1790. Maybe this is the church her family used?
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Denbighshire / Two possible baptisms for Catherine
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 11:58 BST (UK) »
I am trying to take the line of Catherine Edwards back a little further. According to the 1851 census, she was born about 1762 in Cerrigydrudion, Denbighshire. When she died at Tanyfron in October 1853, her burial record gave her age as 92 which makes her year of birth about 1761.
I have found two possible baptisms for a Catherine Edwards at Cerrigydrudion:
1. 7 Jan 1759 "Catherine the bastard daughter to Thos Edward of ...? in the parish of Llanawr begotten on the bodye of Gwen Jones of this parish"
2. 22 Jan 1764 "Catherine the daughter of Richard Edward of Rhos...? by Margaret his wife"
At first, I was going to go with the earlier baptism but would an illegitimate child take her father's surname? In my experience, most have taken their mother's name
I have found two possible baptisms for a Catherine Edwards at Cerrigydrudion:
1. 7 Jan 1759 "Catherine the bastard daughter to Thos Edward of ...? in the parish of Llanawr begotten on the bodye of Gwen Jones of this parish"
2. 22 Jan 1764 "Catherine the daughter of Richard Edward of Rhos...? by Margaret his wife"
At first, I was going to go with the earlier baptism but would an illegitimate child take her father's surname? In my experience, most have taken their mother's name
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 11:33 BST (UK) »Welsh Tithe maps (produced around 1840) has a Philip Owen as occupier "Rallt Ddu ("Ralt Ddu" on actual map), Llansanan, land use "Homestead" - landowner Yorke Rees Wynne.Thanks. Philip was James' son so I'm pleased that I have the right James. His wife Grace seems to have disappeared completely after the birth of their son Owen in 1797
Also listed against "Rallt Ddu" Llansanan are Edward Davies, land use "Gardens" and John Williams, field name Rallt Ddu, Homestead.
at least now I know where James' story ended.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 19:06 BST (UK) »shows in Llansannan on this map
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qif/
Brilliant find, thank you osprey!
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 13:24 BST (UK) »
Yes, it could be. Allt Ddu is in the civil parish of LLangywer (according to Genuki).
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 12:59 BST (UK) »
Can anyone make out the abode of James Owens? He was buried at LLansannan in Denbighshire in 1830.
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Worcestershire / Re: Matthew and Sarah Robbins
« on: Wednesday 24 March 21 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both!
I have set about ordering a copy of the removal order in case it has any more details to show.
Thank you for finding a possible baptism for Matthew, trish. I will definitely consider it.
I have a copy of the parish registers for St Peter's at Droitwich and there is a potential burial for Sarah...
Sarah WARRINGER
5 Jan 1814, aged 80 (born circa 1734)
I know her maiden name was Wallinger but it's very similar! And seeing as she had seven children with Matthew before marrying him, she may have been better known by her maiden name.
I have set about ordering a copy of the removal order in case it has any more details to show.
Thank you for finding a possible baptism for Matthew, trish. I will definitely consider it.
I have a copy of the parish registers for St Peter's at Droitwich and there is a potential burial for Sarah...
Sarah WARRINGER
5 Jan 1814, aged 80 (born circa 1734)
I know her maiden name was Wallinger but it's very similar! And seeing as she had seven children with Matthew before marrying him, she may have been better known by her maiden name.