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Denbighshire / Re: Two possible baptisms for Catherine
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 18:31 BST (UK)  »
Her daughters were Eleanor, Jane and Sarah. Sons were Isaac and Robert.

She was married at Llansannan to Morris Roberts in 1790. Maybe this is the church her family used?

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Denbighshire / Two possible baptisms for Catherine
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 11:58 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to take the line of Catherine Edwards back a little further. According to the 1851 census, she was born about 1762 in Cerrigydrudion, Denbighshire. When she died at Tanyfron in October 1853, her burial record gave her age as 92 which makes her year of birth about 1761.

I have found two possible baptisms for a Catherine Edwards at Cerrigydrudion:

1. 7 Jan 1759 "Catherine the bastard daughter to Thos Edward of ...? in the parish of Llanawr begotten on the bodye of Gwen Jones of this parish"

2. 22 Jan 1764 "Catherine the daughter of Richard Edward of Rhos...? by Margaret his wife"

At first, I was going to go with the earlier baptism but would an illegitimate child take her father's surname? In my experience, most have taken their mother's name  ???

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Welsh Tithe maps (produced around 1840) has a Philip Owen as occupier "Rallt Ddu ("Ralt Ddu" on actual map), Llansanan, land use "Homestead" - landowner Yorke Rees Wynne.
Also listed against "Rallt Ddu" Llansanan are Edward Davies, land use "Gardens" and John Williams, field name Rallt Ddu, Homestead. 
Thanks. Philip was James' son so I'm pleased that I have the right James. His wife Grace seems to have disappeared completely after the birth of their son Owen in 1797  ;D at least now I know where James' story ended.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 19:06 BST (UK)  »
shows in Llansannan on this map

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qif/

Brilliant find, thank you osprey!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 13:24 BST (UK)  »
Yes, it could be. Allt Ddu is in the civil parish of LLangywer (according to Genuki).

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Abode on burial entry
« on: Friday 09 April 21 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone make out the abode of James Owens? He was buried at LLansannan in Denbighshire in 1830.

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Worcestershire / Re: Matthew and Sarah Robbins
« on: Wednesday 24 March 21 13:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both!

I have set about ordering a copy of the removal order in case it has any more details to show.

Thank you for finding a possible baptism for Matthew, trish. I will definitely consider it.

I have a copy of the parish registers for St Peter's at Droitwich and there is a potential burial for Sarah...

Sarah WARRINGER
5 Jan 1814, aged 80 (born circa 1734)

I know her maiden name was Wallinger but it's very similar! And seeing as she had seven children with Matthew before marrying him, she may have been better known by her maiden name.  ???

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Worcestershire / Re: Matthew and Sarah Robbins
« on: Tuesday 23 March 21 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
I think this is their daughter Sarah’s marriage at Droitwich...

11 Oct 1792, Droitwich, St Andrew
Edward Bourne and Sarah Robins married by license

Witnesses were Richard Cooke and Jemima Smith

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Worcestershire / Matthew and Sarah Robbins
« on: Monday 22 March 21 17:18 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find out where Matthew and Sarah Robbins (nee Wallinger) ended up following their removal from Droitwich to Badsey.

At Easter 1784, Matthew, wife Sarah and six children were removed from Droitwich to Badsey. Would this have been Matthew's parish of birth? I don't really understand how removal orders worked. They had only been married a few months (married 8 February 1784 at Droitwich, St Peter) despite already having seven children. Their children were:

John, 1768 at Droitwich, St Andrew
Sarah, 1770 same place
Thomas, 1771-1771 same place
Thomas, 1772 same place
William 1775 same place
Ann 1778 at Droitwich, St Peter
Lydia 1783 at Droitwich, St Andrew

Their daughter Lydia seems to have baptised four illegitimate children at Droitwich, St Peter, including Sarah 1802, John 1804, Thomas 1808 and Jane 1814. She never married and I have her death registration at Droitwich in 1838 so it would seem at least some of the Robbins family returned to Droitwich after their removal.

Their daughter Ann (my ancestor) married John Collins at Droitwich, St Peter, in 1800 and moved to Worcester.

Their son William seems to have joined the army and was discharged in 1816.

I've searched for burials for both Matthew and Sarah and nothing has turned up so far.  ???

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