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The Common Room / Re: The Scavenger Hunts - Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Wednesday 03 June 15 05:13 BST (UK)  »
3rd June, 2015

Alders Scavenger Hunt.

The Common Room / Alders Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Wednesday 03 June 15 05:10 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt, really hoping you can solve this puzzle for Alders.

Good Luck and Good Hunting



 fingers crossed all of you lovely talented people can help! My head can't take any more!
So here is my story!
My 3x great grandfather was called Edward Byrne he was born in Liverpool UK 6/2/1823
he joined the merchant navy as an apprentice in 1839. He was never back in the UK for a census.
He attained the rank of Captain & i have copies of his Master & Mates Certificate & his register of seamans certificate which gave his DOB (NA ref BT113)
He was Captain of the Lightning ship clipper, Mason, Foam, Zingari to name a few.
According to newspaper articles he went to China in 1865 & in 1868 he made his way from Shanghai to Kobe (Hyogo) in Japan. He made his home here & became an influential member of the foreign settlement, serving on the Kobe Municipal Council, President of the Kobe regatta & athletic club. He was also Chairman of Hyogo Gas Co & Hyogo Ice Co.
He died in Kobe 20/11/1889
He had 1 son called Aden Byrne born in Kobe 1878, the only record of his birth or even of his mother is on Aden's naturalization certificate to the UK in 1907,  It names his mother as Tonyama Tetsu. By 1891 Aden was back in the UK living with Catherine Brunner (wid of Adolphe Brunnner) & there son George Kenelm Brunner. I have found no connection between the Brunner's & the Byrne's.   
There is no doubt that Edward was very wealthy upon his death enough that it would appear that he paid Catherine Brunner to take in & raise Aden, he stayed with the family until he was in his 20's after that he married yet Aden never worked living off independent means ( & he lived well!)

On one of Edwards Master & Mates certificate he lists his address as he lists his address as 18 Islington in Liverpool, on the 1851 census there is a James & Elizabeth Byrnes lodging there, Could be coincidence? i think i tracked these people to the 1841 census because the parents names & age match with the 1851 census
they lived at 175 Bostock St, Liverpool
all of them were born in Ireland.
James Byrne   45 Merchant  b 1796
Elizabeth Byrne   40  b 1801
George Byrne   20  b 1821
David Byrne   20  b 1821
Margret Byrne   18  b 1823
James Byrne   15  b 1826
John Byrne     15  b 1826
Aiden Byrne   13  b 1828
Is it also a coincidence that Edward had a son called Aden??
Of note i have not been able to trace this family anywhere other than the 1841 census. My personal opinion is that if Edward was related to this family he was more than likely born in Ireland too but lied about his birthplace it would of afforded him better prospects to do so.
So my questions are
Where is Edward's will? He had to have had something!
How did he come into contact with the Brunner's ( newspaper ad, i can't find anything?)
Who is Tonyama Tetsu & what happened to her?
Are the 1841 Byrne's related?
I have been very lucky & have had the help of a chap in Japan helping me, but the japanese are very strict about privacy regarding family history so we have been greatly hampered.
 a bio of Edward can be found here :-

Past roots posts
 Finding the Byrnes
Edward Byrne posts
Will location

Thank you all so much, i hope i have not bored you!

The Common Room / Re: The Scavenger Hunts - Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Monday 20 April 15 11:29 BST (UK)  »

Here is the link to Isobell21's Scavenger Hunt.

The Common Room / Isobell21 Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Monday 20 April 15 11:26 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt (sorry it's a bit early, but those who know me know there's a few problems at the moment, so getting this in while I can)

Isobell would like to find out about her late husband's  family, I'm thinking with the great minds on here, you'll be able to help her.

Good Luck and Good Hunting



Henry King first appears in  Quebec, in the Census of lower Canada, working as a servant he is 20 years old and born in England, this is,16 years prior to Canada becoming a Conferation.

Henry is working at this time in the household of Mr.E.Bowen who was a lawyer,Judge and Politian.

 He marries Mary Ann Duffy at the Anglican Cathedral(Church of The Holy Trinity)

They are burried in Mount Hermon Cemetry.

I would like to know how and where he was born? also who were his parents.

I have requested the archavist of the Church look into church records, in hopes of finding the answer to these questions. I know all archived records are held at Bishop's University in Sherbrooke and I am awaiting a reply.

I would think you could not be married in the Church without them having all this information.

I have found something intersting in the 1841 UK Census of Hacconby,Lincolnshire,the family of George and Louisa King,George is a tailor and Louisa his wife both born about 1810

George King 30
Louisa his wife 30
George 10
Louisa 8
John 5
William 3
Henry 3

Henry 9
Elizabeth Sneath 50

no indication of how the household is related.I am assuming they did not have two sons named Henry.

I then searched 1851 Census all occupants of the 1841 Census  are there but 9 year old Henry is missising.

This family immigrates to USA later in the 1870's or 80's and the settle in northern N.Y State ...
this family refer to Louisa King nee Sneath. It is the same family I have found in 1841 minus the 9 year old Henry.

I have been in touch with the tree holder and she has no knowledge of the 9 year old.

Another curiousity is in the family of Henry and Mary Ann Duffy(they called her Auntie Annie) is the family names;

Henry King born in England
Mary Ann (Duffy) King wife b in Quebec
Henry King son born 1859 Quebec married Grace West moved to Montreal in 1894
William King son b in1860 Quebec,immigrated to Worcestor Mass.U.S.A
Anne Elizabeth daughter b.1866 Quebec,died in Montreal,buried Mt.Hermon Cemetary,Quebec
Louisa daughter died at birth 1869 Quebec,buried in Mt. Hermon Cemetary

The Common Room / Re: The Scavenger Hunts - Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Tuesday 07 April 15 12:27 BST (UK)  »

jaybelnz Scavenger Hunt

The Common Room / jaybelnz Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Tuesday 07 April 15 12:25 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to another Scavenger Hunt and this one is a cracker, hopefully you'll be able to knock down a wall jaybelnz has been punching away at for years.

Good Luck and Good Hunting



An 1845 Marriage in St Peter's Church, Dublin, gives me my great great grandparents, but like each new find, this brings up new questions, and this one in particular brings me puzzles that I have never been able to solve, since 2002!

The marriage record shows the following people:

Groom    -   John Gibbons Mathews   -             Father Henry Maxwell Mathews, Gentleman.
                    Sergeant of Lancers                    Mother not named on cert, but later info shows
Usual place of residence                                  her to be Sarah Annie Mathews (still no MS)
- Nottingham.                                                 Henry's wife Sarah lived at 47 Aungier Street,
                                                                     Dublin, as did one of their daughters who later     
                                                                     also married in Dublin.Mrs Sarah Mathews died     
                                                                     and is buried in Dublin, was living at 47 Aungier     
                                                                     Street at the time of her death.
                                                                     Daughter's names Sarah Annie (b Newry,) and
                                                                     Also another son Richard.                         


Bride        -   Mary Jane Fleming                      Father David Fleming Officer Royal Irish Artillery
Usual place of residence, Triton Tce       
Tritonville Donnybrook.           

Later finds have been:

Plenty of Census entries in England in later years state John Gibbons Mathews was born in Newry Ireland, so  calculation always comes up born c1818.
Newry straddles the Counties of both Armagh and Down, I don't know which county applies in this instance, but have tried with both. I have also searched for a mother for him with surname of Gibbons, or Maxwell.

Same with the census entries for his wife Mary Jane (Fleming) Mathews, who was born in Portarlington, County Laois? Ireland and I also used c1818 from census for calculation of age.

Later found from Medal Rolls that John's Regiment was the12th Royal Princes Lancers in Nottingham. I believe that the Military Records for this Regiment are held in Archives at Nottingham University, but haven't had a reply to my enquiry to them.

There is a ships record in The Victorian Gazette ((Aust) page 234, Friday Feb. 6th, 1874, that records a death for a John Gibbons Mathews - died at Sea, near Victoria in Australia, 5th March 1873 aged 55. This is a bit confusing and I'm not sure whether this was an outward or inward journey. I understand the deaths and/or Burials of British citizens at Sea, are recorded at English Archives, but not been able to locate a death or burial for him in British National Archives. It is thought that John's sister Sarah Mathews and her husband John Potter may have been living in Geelong, Victoria at this time.

In all my searches re John Gibbons Mathews, every search result I have found has been my John, using also the middle name Gibbons even on census entries , and his own family proven by other details on such records as his chn's births etc., multiple census' entries, etc.  the exception of a possible South African war medals Roll clue,where there is no middle given name. He is also on a medal Roll for the Crimean War. So that one could very likely be another just John Mathews, and there are zillions of them. Those I have followed up on with no middle name, haven't brought me any joy. So, I  am quite convinced that there has never been another John Gibbons Mathews in the whole wide world! 😄😂


Mary Jane Mathews died 4th Qtr 1877 aged 59 at Ashton Under Lyne, Lancs.
She was buried 6 Dec. 1877 At Bardsley Lancs.

Indications are that Henry Maxwell Mathews Esq. was a landowner in County Meath.

Many of my other Rootscats postings re John Gibbons Mathews, Mary Jane Fleming and their fathers, may possibly give some more clues if I've missed anything in this instance.

David Fleming and Henry Maxwell Mathews are sitting cold and hungry right at the top of my tree, and getting lonely for their wives.  They've been sitting there for about 12 Years!

Can the Scavenger Hunters please try and reunite these two couples, and give their mothers back to John and Mary Jane? That would be a great achievement!

The Common Room / Re: The Scavenger Hunts - Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Monday 06 April 15 09:56 BST (UK)  »

Probably right, Kit... there has been a loooooooooooooooong gap in between, but you can look forward to Tuesday, it's a cracker.

All the best


The Common Room / Re: The Scavenger Hunts - Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« on: Sunday 05 April 15 09:34 BST (UK)  »
That's just reminded me to ask whether the Scavenger Hunts still on?  If so, where do I need to go to view?


Hi Kit, yes, they're still on and in fact there will be a new one on Tuesday.  To see the full list just go to page one and two and it will show you who/when and the link.

If you want a Scavenger Hunt, just PM me with the details.

All the best


The Common Room / Re: charlotteCH
« on: Wednesday 19 March 14 09:38 GMT (UK)  »

I first met Charlotte at the Ipswich 'mini meet' where as soon as I got out of the car with Dee and my Mother, I was 'set upon' by this lady striding towards me saying "YOU.... you must be Tephra"  Whereupon I was enveloped in a huge bear hug.   And from there it turned into a wonderful, witty, warm and welcoming friendship.

I am so lucky to have had Charlotte in my life, even though it was such a short time, in many ways I feel I've known her for a lifetime.

Good Night my dear friend.  God Bless.                    :'(  :'(

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