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Armed Forces Resources / Service records with redactions
« on: Saturday 10 February 24 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Disappointingly, a WW2 RAF service record I've applied for has finally come through from the MoD but with redactions on anything remotely third party. 

Apparently this is because these are now supplied via FoI requests and thus the info is available to all, not just next of kin.

Those I applied for under the old system (with a fee, and proof of relationship) have all info included. 

It's so frustrating because I was hoping to see my uncle's employment prior to joining up (in 1941), who he'd put down as next of kin, and in particular their address(es).  Although his actual service record is of interest (he was killed in action in 1944), it really was his personal details at the time that I wanted. 

Anyone know of how to obtain a non-redacted record?  The MoD said because it was under FoI there is no avenue to obtain one.  But I'm wondering if there is a non-FoI avenue to pursue?

Thanks.


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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Gloucester asylum lookup please 1922
« on: Sunday 24 December 23 17:06 GMT (UK)  »
I'd be very grateful if someone visiting the archives (closed of course at the moment for the break, so no rush) could look up some details for me please of Harold Vernon SMITH in Gloucester asylum.

dob 16 Feb 1898
admitted 23 Jan 1922
death 9 Nov 1922 Death Cert states death at County mental hospital, Wotton Hill, Gloucester, age 24, of The Vicarage, Leighterton, Tetbury, RD. Bank clerk. Died of Diptheria 5 days. No post mortem.

The address tallies with the June 1921 census where he was shown as visitor in that household, unemployed bank clerk.  I have his employment history and he was a bank clerk for Wilts and Dorset Bank, then Lloyds when they took it over, and then abroad at the Bank of British West Africa. He returned to England in May 1921 having left this job, with a Bournemouth address as his destination.

The information I'd like is any family member(s) and address(es) and any other details as I can't find his widowed mother Kate Smith after 1911 in Knole Rd, Bournemouth. Not the easiest surname to research and she could have remarried.  The admission register might show his connection with the vicarage household too because there's no obvious family connection but I need to explore that more thoroughly.  Possibly a Freemasonry connection as H V Smith went to one of their schools?

So any info really from the admissions register if that's possible?  His admission ref no might be useful too, for identifying other records in the system.

Also if they have burial records, that would be of interest.  Would their inmates be buried on site or at at a particular cemetery? It's possible a family member took him to another area though. He had relatives in Bristol (the Butler family), in Nottingham (his birthplace) and wherever his mother was, if still alive.

Thanks in advance.

And Merry Christmas rootschatters!  :)

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / SCARESBROOK/STACEY marriage Q4 1902
« on: Tuesday 21 March 23 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
I have a marriage record for Q4 1902 registered at Uxbridge for Charles Scaresbrook and Martha Stacey.  GRO index Uxbridge vol 3a page 111.

As Charles Scaresbrook was a Baptist and just finished his training at a Baptist college (later being employed as a minister of various Baptist/free churches) I would expect the marriage to either be in a Baptist or free church or a registry office rather than in a CoE church, but perhaps not?

I'd be interested if anyone has access to more details please.

I haven't found a newspaper announcement for this marriage on BNA but that doesn't mean it isn't there somewhere of course.  Assuming there was an announcement or mention somewhere.

By the way, I do have quite a lot of info about this couple, so mainly interested in the place of marriage.

Thanks.




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Derbyshire / SALT/GROVESChesterfield around 1915
« on: Tuesday 14 March 23 15:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

This relates to a family studio photo that I posted on this thread asking about the possible date. https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=776816.msg6305442#msg6305442  The only clue was the soldier's uniform, which was 1915+

Having made contact with Kirk surname researchers, I've drawn a blank, so wonder now if it is the Salt family of Chesterfield.  Are there any SALT researchers here?

Annie Elizabeth Salt (1863-?) married Richard Kirk in July 1886 in Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbys. Their family situation was dysfunctional and I can't make any of the adults or offspring fit this photo.

I haven't done a great deal of research into the Salt family but have found her brother Samuel (1852-) who married Elizabeth Ward Marshall in 1876 in Chesterfield, and sister Hannah (1854-) who married Henry Groves in 1871 in Chesterfield. 

The three children's parents were James Salt and Sarah nee MacDonald/McDonald (1826-1899).

I'm wondering if this family is of some combination of Salts/Groves or one or other family?

Thanks for reading.

Val

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Wiltshire / Calne street (Whitley Road) renamed?
« on: Monday 06 March 23 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
I've found a baptism record for 1871 with the person's address given as Whitley Road, Calne.

I can't find it on modern maps so wonder if it's been renamed.

Anyone recognise it please?

Thanks.

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Rutland / Ornamental gate in Uppingham, Rutland 1930
« on: Thursday 19 January 23 13:12 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies if this is in the wrong section but not really sure where to post it.

I have a photo of an ornamental wrought iron gate made by my ggfather Billington based in Wellingborough.  On the back it has his business stamp and someone has pencilled in Uppingham.

As you can see, 1930 is incorporated into the design.  Uppingham local history soc have asked their contacts, including the archivist at Uppingham school, but no success yet.

The archivist suggested that it was a gate to a tomb or vault, based on the stonework behind.

Is there an initial on each side?  The fancy work doesn't look identical.  Perhaps A on the left but not sure about the right.

Ggrandfather Billington was well known locally for his ornamental wrought ironwork, and he completed many ecclesiastical commissions locally and further afield, and domestic work, including gates, lampholders, sign holders, rood screens, plus ordinary items such as railings. Two of his sons worked with him later on and by 1930 he was in his 70s so I guess his sons did most of the work.  The family has a lot of material about him, including an article published in the Northampton County Magazine c1930, plus a handful of photos of his work although without locations. 

He didn't always mark his work, but if he did, it was with his initials - either GEB or EGB (because he called himself George Edmund but his name was registered as Edmund George and he traded as EG Billington).

Anyone have any ideas?  Did someone wealthy die in 1930 or a year or so earlier so a special gate was made for their tomb?

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Nottinghamshire / Street name change? Barker's Drive, Carlton became Eastmoor Drive?
« on: Friday 16 December 22 17:21 GMT (UK)  »
I have a family in the 1901 census living in Barker's Drive, Burton Rd, Carlton.  The earlier streets in the preceding pages are for Ouse Drive, then some Burton Rd households, then Freeman's Terrace, more Burton Rd, then Barker's Drive, before more Burton Rd.  So working its way from east to west and going into and back out of all the cul de sacs.

I can't see a Barker's Drive on a modern map.

However, the same family in 1902 were in Eastmoor Drive, off Manor Crescent, off Burton Rd.

Was there a name change at some point as this looks as if Eastmoor Dr and perhaps Manor Cresc were once Barker's Drive?

[Edit: related to my query here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816084.msg6775479#msg6775479 although since then I've discovered more about my other questions in that thread].

Thanks.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1851 census. Does this really say 'lazy'
« on: Thursday 10 November 22 09:27 GMT (UK)  »
This made me laugh but perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly.  'Lazy' in the blind/deaf column for Joseph Bannister.  His birthplace is Staffordshire, Marchington, which doesn't seem to spill over into the last column, unlike his wife's birthplace, Derbyshire, Lullington and his daughter's, Staffordshire, Tutbury.  Or perhaps Marchington does spill over and the 'y' is just an ink dribble.

Also what is Mary his daughter's occupation please?  The second word is maker but what is the first word? Shift?

Thanks for looking.

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The Common Room / Christenings/baptisms of babies in care?
« on: Friday 07 October 22 20:02 BST (UK)  »
Just wondering - if a baby was taken into care, would a Christening be organised by the authorities or the children's home? 

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