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Gloucestershire / Re: James Edwards -Battle of Trafalgar
« on: Saturday 11 September 21 14:03 BST (UK)  »
? Assume have searched the National Archives for

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

James Edwards - Mars


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Will of Edwards, James Rank/Rating : Seaman.  Ship name: Mars

New Board, Navy Pay Office, and Admiralty, Accountant General's Department.
Seamen's Wills
MISCELLANEA (SEAMEN'S WILLS).
E. Will of Edwards, James, Rank/Rating.  Ship Name: Mars

Held by: The National Archives, Kew - Admiralty, Navy, Royal Marines, and Coastguards.

Date: 27 March 1810

Reference: ADM 48/27/15

Subjects: Armed Forces (General Administration) Navy

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Wiltshire / Re: Pykes of (West) Weeke
« on: Sunday 05 September 21 19:05 BST (UK)  »
Have you checked the National Archives?

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Just had a quick look...

Date: 26 May 1673

(2) Henry PYKE of Ramscombe, gent., Thomas, his brother and Henry PYKE of Weeke....

Reference: 9/5/33

Description: Henry PYKE of Rambscombe, gent., Thomas, his brother, and Henry PYKE of Weeke, Pewsey, yeoman, executors in trust of the Will of Stephen HIDE, late of Stitchombe., gent., (3) Ann, widow of Stephen HIDE.

The site of Puthall Farm in Little Bedwyn., a toft or close of pasture called Pitt Close (30a) since divided into four and called Pryors Close on the south side of Puthall Lane in Mildenhall, and the grass of 2a in Withigg Mead in the manor of Stitchombe.

Consideration, surrender of a lease of 16 December 1657 and 200.  Rent. 5

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Looking quickly at the North Nibley burials... on the North Nibley website

HALWAY -

Alice - 9 May 1578 - daughter of George HALWAY, alias ALLYNE, alias LIPPET, (weaver)

Margarie - 19 February 1576 - daughter of George HALWAY, alias ALLYNE, alias LIPPET

(may be Alias' do have a part in your research)

George LIPPET - buried 24 Mar 1577 - Notes: alias HALWAY, alias ALLYNE

Robert TYLLY - 26 March 1628 - son of Robert TYLLY


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I was born in Wiltshire, we didn't sound our 'H' at the start of a word/surname - nor did my Gloucestershire Grandparents ...... Hence HOLLOWAY or variations of..... could be spoken without the 'H' hence Allway. 





??? just in case

Marriage at Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire , 23 Jan 1661

Robert ALWAY - to Mary ANDREWS

North Nibley is about 7 miles from North Nibley.

Ancestry: Canterbury Wills

Johis (John) ALWAY, Hawkesbury, 13 Jn 1689

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It may help to contact

https://www.northnibley.org.uk

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Baptisms etc  - Under the Heading: Features - Burials at St Martins 1567-1897 etc. etc.

There are some Tylie baptisms - some for two Robert TYLLIE - and also for John - (might be easier than trying to read Ancestry)

It would seem that Picks Mill, North Nibley - (on website: Heritage Gateway - Results) - shows 17th central rental records that a fulling and frist mill on Mundaies land was conveyed to John SMYTH -
John SMYTH is on the 1608 Men in Armour for Gloucestershire, North Nibley.

on the website under Burials is

TYLLIE
Roberte - 19 Jan 1577 - the elder
Gane - 22 November 1588 - daughter of Roberte Tyllie weaver
Marie - 6 Jan 1592 - wife of Roberte Tyllie, weaver
Willm - 30 October 1594 - sonne of Roberte Tyllie weaver
Agnes - 8 April 1603 - daughtr of John Tyllie fuller
William - 19 April 1751 - weaver




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Gloucestershire / Re: Tyllye and Holloway (sp var), North Nibley, 16th and 17th centuries
« on: Saturday 04 September 21 08:27 BST (UK)  »
Another useful website (free to join just register) is

Forest of Dean Family History Trust

https://forest-of-dean.net

This website, holds thousands of births, marriages and deaths.....
Use the Soundex when searching surnames - e.g.

A number of  THOCKMORTON records, spelt in many ways, partly because of the state of the original records.... There are THROGMERTON etc etc.

For example....

Record ID: 76073
Year: 1567
Month: Feb
Day: 6
Parents Surname: THROGMORTON
Child Forenames: Franccis

Memoranda: 1566/1567 Old style date>  This entry is under the year 1567 but all this group of entries look like they should have been placed under 1566.

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The same website, holds thousands of Gloucestershire : Marriage Licence Allegations and Marriages Bonds (found under Resources)

Marriage Licences Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1823

Many records have 2 copies, one being the Marriage Bond and also the Marriage Licence.  Sometimes the surnames have been spelt differently.

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Worth reading up about the various changes in the Calender. e.g.

1752 Calendar Change - Colonial Records & Topics etc.

Calendar changes : Lots of website explaining .....  The Gregorian Calender, Double Dating, Changes of 1752 etc. etc.

'In 1582, when Pope Gregory XIII introduced his Gregorian calender, Europe adhered to the Julian calendar, first implemented by Julius Caesar in 46 BC.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Tyllye and Holloway (sp var), North Nibley, 16th and 17th centuries
« on: Saturday 04 September 21 08:00 BST (UK)  »
?

In case you haven't access : The National Archives

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

This gives you access to records held by The National Archives and more than 2,500 other archives.


This will tell you, where records are held - even though it relates to Gloucestershire, many records are held at the Archives in Kew, London, or other places.

Just searching for Throckmorton Gloucestershire, there are 125 'hits' and the first one listed is:  If you just search for Throckmorton - there are over a thousand records.



Short title: Throckmorton v Throckmorton.  Plaintiffs: Elizabeth Throckmorton, Anne Throckmorton and Sarah Throckmorton.  Defendants: Elizabeth.....

Court of Chancery: Six Clerks office: Pleadings before 1714, Mitford.   etc - if you click on the underlined heading....

Reference: C8/202/59

Description: Short title: Throckmorton v Throckmorton etc. etc.

Subject: Property in Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire

Date: 1671

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Sometimes documents can be downloaded for a small fee - other documents have to be requested.

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Just having a look, sometimes when searching a surname, it's just best to put in the first couple of letters in the surname for example...

There are THROKMORTON, THROMARTON - this surname appears to have quite a lot of LORD's.

Try searching for a Robert T as there is a Robert TWINY A20 - and a Robert TYLLADAMS - etc. etc.

There is the surname spelt: HOLLWAY, HOLLIDAY, HOLLYDAY etc - so just put in HO.


Gloucestershire Genelogical Database, has the Will of Robert TYLLYE - 1577 North Nibley and Helen TYLLIE 1584 - North Nibley.

Checking on Gloucestershire Genelogical Databse, HOLLOWAY again has a number of different spellings - none for North Nibley.,

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For Starters





If you haven't look at the Coaley.net website, which lists

Men & Armour for Gloucestershire 1608  (under Local History Heading)

Men and Armour for Gloucestershire in 1608 is a transcript of the information produced by a military survey of the County of Gloucestershire conducted by John Smyth the Steward of the Berkeley Estate in that year.  .....  goes onto say, it contains a fairly complete list of all the men from the ages of 16 to 60 in Gloucestershire.  Around 20,000 men.

https://coaley.net

North Nibley (Dursley)

has

John TILLEY fuller A40 middle stature

which if you look on the help page..... transcribes as

A40 - age around 40
Middle Stature - means - fit to make a musketeer

looking on the net - occupation: fuller, means -   Before fabric softener existed, people had a very peculiar way of making cloth feel more pleasant on the skin.  The people that were enlisted to perform this job was dubbed the fuller, and the fabric that most commonly needed to be softened was wool.

No uniform spelling of SURNAMES and Alias surname also were quite common.

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Chubbs Factory
« on: Tuesday 31 August 21 15:07 BST (UK)  »
On the baptism of his daughter Constance Florence Maude SNAPE -  in 1889 in the Parish of St Andrew's Peckham -

he gives his name as: John Canada SNAPE - and (Ellen Alma) - abode: Chubb's  ?  Buildings, occupation, Locksmith.

His age on the 1881 census, 39 (c1842)


1881 Census, Wolverhampton Eastern - District 16, page 15 of 32

Bridge Street

SNAPE
John - married - aged 39, Lock Maker, born London
Ellen A - 25 - all born Wolverhampton
Eliza  T?- 6
Ellen E - 4
Mary A - 2
Benjamin T? - 5 months or weeks....

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