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Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36...

I can't see a Hannah who died in 1853?  Was it in Hobart? Was it registered?  Did she actually die in NSW?

The one who died in 1851 in Tas was a Gardener's wife (your James was a Tailor) and the child by the same name who died in 1855 appears to be her daughter.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-3p117j2k
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-5$init=RGD35-1-5p49jpg


James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853.


So James died before Hannah?  I'm confused  ;D

Ok, I see he died in 1861 in NSW.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28624847

Debra  :)

Haha yes sorry James senior died in 1861.. It was late, not sure where I pulled 1853 from lol

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The Andromache arrived into NSW in 1837, not Tasmania. 

Baptisms at Parramatta for David and Hannah from 1840/41.

NSW BDM have this one as 1840, FamilySearch 1841.

I assume the father's name is incorrect.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDG-TJT

Debra  :)

David Hume is James' brother. He also married a Hannah (née Johnson). Matilda went to live with them later in life.

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Wow that is fantastic! Thank you so much. The dates that I have are not concrete because we are still to sight original documents. Yes James Hume senior was a Tailor, it is written on their marriage certificate which I do have. It would explain why I can't find records in Tasmania. So they arrived on the mainland, then made their way to Tasmania, there he married Hannah who gave birth to James and Matilda and then between 1850 and 1852 they returned to the mainland.

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Hello,
 I'm trying to track the movements of my great-great-great-grandmother Matilda Jane Hume and her father James Hume.
What I know so far.
James immigrated to Tasmania (we have since discovered it arrived in NSW not tasmania)on 08 October 1837 aboard the "Andromache" from the UK with his then wife, Margaret Hume ( no children).
 I am unsure of what happened to Margaret Hume, but I did find a Margaret Hume returning from Tasmania to London in 1846.
In 20 November 1844 he married Hannah Malley ( haven't found where she immigrated from yet)
They had two children, possibly three .
The two I know of are:
*Matilda Jane Hume b.15 May 1847
*James Hume (junior) b. 12 June 1850 and passed away in 17 feb 1852.

Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36, Hannah was apparently born in 05 Jan 1816 which would put her at age 35/36 when she passed away so this is plausible) (* we have since found a Hannah Hume passing away in NSW in April 1853)

After Hannah passed away it has been told that James could not raise Matilda on his own and so she became adopted by his Brother David Hume and his wife Hannah Hume ( another Hannah).

David and Hannah Hume also immigrated to Tasmania NSW on the same boat as James.
David and Hannah later move to the Maitland/Carrow brook/ Largs?Dunmore area in Nsw.
I know Matilda was in that area by 1863 at the latest because she gave birth to a child in East Maitland.
James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853 1861.

I would like to see if I can find the movements of these families between Hannah's death in 1851/1853 and Matilda giving birth in 1863.

I have tried to look up passenger lists of ships departing Tasmania for Newcastle or Sydney but haven't had much luck.

I am researching the daughter that Matilda gave birth to in 1863 but that is a whole different can of worms :D

At this stage it would be great if I could build a picture of her mother, Matilda's movements in those years prior .
If anyone has any ideas on where I might find information that would be much lay appreciated.

Thank you so much.

POST SCRIPT UPDATES: thank you to those lovely helpers for finding this information
* James Hume Junior was born in Tasmania in 1850 but died in NSW in 1852; so they migrated to the Mainland between these years.
* It looks like Hannah may have died in NSW also, not Tasmania.
* They originally immigrated aboard to Andromache to NSW ( which could be where Margaret Hume left/died), then it seems they later moved to Tasmania which is where James married Hannah Maley/Malley/Mailey and gave birth to James junior and Matilda. After which they moved back to the mainland where it seems James junior and Hannah passed away.


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Stirlingshire / Re: James Brand Smith & Elizabeth Rule
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Oh I'm terribly sorry it must have been the electoral roll.  Sorry to get your hopes up!  I agree the uk census records are brilliant,  i wish ours were the same

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Brand Smith & Elizabeth Rule
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 12:17 BST (UK)  »
You are much better at searching it than i am.. Needle in a hat stack

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Brand Smith & Elizabeth Rule
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 10:52 BST (UK)  »
Only record I can see is James Brand Smith age 17 born about 1927 this James has been a crew member for 9 months .Departed Greenock on ship Wave King for New York ..
Rosie

Turns out this might be him!! 

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Brand Smith & Elizabeth Rule
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 07:54 BST (UK)  »


Mrs. Elizabeth Smith - birthdate 2/4/1926 - UK address 49 Park Avenue, Laucieston, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, occupation Sewer.   Left London for Auckland on 8/6/1956 on the ship Rangitiki.


 

Can i ask where you found the ships information,  I'm trying to find a passenger list. Thanks for your help

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Brand Smith & Elizabeth Rule
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 05:06 BST (UK)  »
That's great thank you i didn't have their date of death yet.  I'm hoping to find the name of their son,  and have been looking for funeral notices or gravestones.
The nz census is on the ancestry website :) James is on there for 63-78 i think so at least a few years worth of records are listed
Thank you

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