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Perthshire / Re: John McGregor and Mary Fisher from Balquhidder
« on: Saturday 19 March 22 21:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi John,

This message thread is a few years old but I thought I might reply anyway. You mentioned Hugh McGregor and Mary Houston who married in Balquhidder. I am their 3x great granddaughter. My name, Mary traces all the way back to Mary Houston. :)

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Argyllshire / Re: Fletchers from Argyllshire
« on: Tuesday 01 March 22 11:58 GMT (UK)  »
If the Fletchers were arrow makers, as their name suggests, they may not have plied that trade since their ancestors were in Ireland. The name basically means 'son of the arrow maker' but that original tradesman could have lived many centuries ago. Why do I think they are ethnically Irish? Two things really. My father did Y DNA testing. He and his fellow Glen Orchy Fletchers all descend from an Irish haplogroup that is connected to Niall of the Nine Hostages, an Irish King of the past. Also, my father was a Gaelic speaker/reader (his mother was from the Isle of Mull) and he pointed out to me that the place names around Achallader were Irish Gaelic not Scottish Gaelic (I NEVER would have noticed!) pointing to the idea that Irish migrants settled this barren spot originally as opposed to Scots.
As for the castles, Achallader had a very short existence. It was built in the 1500s and burned less than 100 years later. It had several owners/occupiers, acquired at one point by reported treachery, and it is hinted that some of the planning for the Glen Coe massacre may have happened here. Some Fletchers must have been in the area during part of its ruination as the front door to the castle was spirited away by them and kept for perhaps another century in the home of some Fletchers nearer Inverary. In the early 1700s, Archibald Fletcher, the 9th chief of the clan, bought Dunans estate on the Cowal Peninsula and enlarged the mansion house there into a castle. The door was brought there and put on display. He is also credited with adopting the English sounding Fletcher surname but it may have been someone else.

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Argyllshire / Re: Fletchers from Argyllshire
« on: Monday 28 February 22 20:19 GMT (UK)  »
Could be but the Fletcher name may or may not be associated with that craft. These Fletchers of Glen Orchy are not from the same roots as English Fletchers like the ones prevalent around Yorkshire. In fact they aren't Fletchers at all really. The name was anglicized from the original Gaelic name of Mcinleister in the 1700s or thereabouts.

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Argyllshire / Re: Fletchers from Argyllshire
« on: Monday 28 February 22 17:26 GMT (UK)  »
The Clearances were a mixed bag. Certainly, many heartless landowners did clear the people from the land by force. It's well documented. In other cases, benevolent landlords paid the passage of their tenants so they could immigrate. Many were almost starving in overcrowded communities. Some folks begged to be moved elsewhere. Not a great time, I'm sure. :(
I don't think the Fletchers of Glen Orchy were cleared from the land. Not exactly anyway, although there is a legend about a Fletcher being tricked out of his land.
The Fletchers settled in Glen Orchy on land surrounding the now ruined Achallader Castle. Where did they come from? Likely Ireland maybe 1,000 years ago, maybe less. They basically squatted on traditionally Campbell land and created a cattle industry for themselves in a very barren place. They did business with their neighbours, the McGregors (my mother was a McGregor), McDonalds etc. and drove cattle to green islands (Mull, Islay etc.) and to market in Perth or Crieff. They are often to be found at ferry points too. In all, the small clan supported itself quite well over the centuries.

Mary

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Argyllshire / Re: Fletchers from Argyllshire
« on: Monday 28 February 22 16:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

I am a Glen Orchy Fletcher. My recently deceased father was the last Fletcher ever born in Glen Orchy. He was born there in 1931.
I live in Canada but immigrated from Argyll, Scotland in early childhood. My father did a lot of research on his Fletchers and I try to carry that on. They were a small clan and moved all over Argyll to places that were known to be good grazing as the Fletchers were cattle drovers, breeders and traders. Waves of them went to America as well in the years around the American Revolution. I have personally met some Fletchers whose ancestors left America after the AR and came to Canada as Loyalists.
The names you mentioned aren't immediately familiar to me but maybe we can figure it out.

Mary Fletcher Harris

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Thank you! That's probably all it is. No interesting insights there then. Oh well.

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Attached is a section of the 1901 census for Preston, Sussex, England. The column lists any disabled persons in the household who are to be noted by a numerical code. However, there are non numerical notations in the column that I don't understand. Both refer to a female, wife of the head, ages 31 and 40, if that helps. One looks like glos/lyos? and the other looks like Max. Would anyone know what they might mean? Thank you.

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Scotland / Re: Why Two Records of Birth?
« on: Thursday 29 April 21 19:36 BST (UK)  »
Thanks!

To expand on that, what would be the case in the event of an adoption? Would yet another birth registration be issued with a new surname?

Mary

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Scotland / Re: Why Two Records of Birth?
« on: Thursday 29 April 21 16:26 BST (UK)  »
Okay, I partially answered my own question by digging through SP's guides. I still don't know if this is our Nancy or why she would be born away from home. Better hospital facilities? Or born where an adoptive family was living? This is what it says on SP "You sometimes find two index entries for a birth. This applies from 1855 to 1934 when a child was born outside the registration district of their parents’ usual residence. The birth was registered in the district where the child was born. The registrar then sent a copy to the registrar of the district where the parents lived. The details were transcribed into that register. Both entries are indexed. If you order a birth certificate it will be from the original, not the transcribed register entry."

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